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Canada's brutal budget proposal

Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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And that's obviously not enough to deter people from buying inefficient vehicles.
Actually Canadians already tend to buy 1 size smaller than Americans, in part I'm sure, because we pay significantly more for gas.

Consider also, a one time "tax" is annual mileage neutral, whereas gas tax is directly proportional to the amount you drive.

I don't feel like re-reading the whole thread to see if someone mentioned it, but Flex Fuel is also covered under the rebate, so the purchase cost premium will be offset. This is especially good for GM with their numerous flex fuel offerings.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
And that's obviously not enough to deter people from buying inefficient vehicles.
Smaller cars are alot more popular in Canada than in the States, but people will still buy their Truck's if they can afford it.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Higher gas tax is what they should have done.

What about used cars? Why can't some one just buy a 1 year old Tahoe
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby:
The cigarette tax is just like any other tax - it is designed to raise revenue (and it does). Some politicians proclaim how raising this tax (and other 'sin' taxes) will ween people off this, that, or the other. Bologna. It raises money for the government. End of story.
Exactly, if there was no money to be made, then the Govt wouldn't care less...
Originally Posted by muckz:
Why don't governments tax or penalize all those factories and mines that are dumping toxins into the environment? Why doesn't the government address bigger issues, and for pete's sake, living in the GTA, if the government is concerned with pollution, build damn good public transportation system - and I mean the subway, not some lightrail streetcar bullsh*t that will annoy commuters and solve nothing.
Yes, or tighten pollution standards, not make money off of polluters.

Why haven't they started taxing or fining the Airline Industry, Aerospace which "is them" for the most part, or Busing and Commercial vehicles???

Just like E-Check, which was a joke...and everyone knew it, why did they check under the hoods of cars when the pollution coming out of the tail-pipe was the problem?

Where's all the data on how these vehicles are destroying the environment more than others???

Why not use independent laboratories, instead of hand-picked puppets looking for research funding??

The amount of extra pollution, to me, doesn't warrant the penalty tax, or at least it hasn't been proven to...

I'd be willing to bet there's a LOT more propaganda about pollution and Global Warming in Canada than here as well...

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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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I'd be willing to bet there's a LOT more propaganda about pollution and Global Warming in Canada than here as well...
I dunno ... you have Al Gore!
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by poSSum:
I dunno ... you have Al Gore!
You got me there!...
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
Do what? The child care tax credit encourages someone to get child care? That's silly. I 'collected' this credit for several years. It is basically the Gov't covering part of the cost of your babysitter. That's it. It doesn't "encourage" anything....though one could argue it gives the smoker with kids the means to buy MORE cigarettes.
Or more beer. Or more potato chips.

Actually, I think the point of the credit is to get more parents to work -- especially single parents. If the child care costs more than you get paid (or even 1/2 what you get paid), then.....

Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
The cigarette tax is just like any other tax - it is designed to raise revenue (and it does). Some politicians proclaim how raising this tax (and other 'sin' taxes) will ween people off this, that, or the other. Bologna. It raises money for the government. End of story.

Gas guzzler tax does the same thing.

Bob
I don't know. The gas guzzler tax probably does influence purchase decisions. I, for one, would think thrice before buying a car with one, because I don't like paying extra taxes. If I get 'free money' (or your money ) for buying a car with good gas mileage, I'm more likely to do it....

The fact that it raises money for the gummint is a bonus!
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by poSSum
I dunno ... you have Al Gore!
Originally Posted by 90rocz
You got me there!...
Maybe we should deport him to Canada.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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The fact that it raises money for the gummint is a bonus!
Uh. Ya. Ok.

Bob
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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Maybe we should deport him to Canada.
that means WAR!!!!!!
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 90rocz
I'd be willing to bet there's a LOT more propaganda about pollution and Global Warming in Canada than here as well...
Not really. Most provinces don't even require emission testing on vehicles AFAIK.

Most propaganda comes from US media.
Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
Uh. Ya. Ok.

Bob

That was a joke, btw.....
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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Thank God!

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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 03:43 AM
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Just based on the people I've seen, you're probally one of the rare ones who actually need-use something that big.
It's a free country (USA at least ). What if someone just WANTS more knee room? Buyers are free to choose what they WANT and need. I know my Dad's 2000 Silverado ext. cab sure feels more spacious, than say, a Trailblazer. He likes the feeling... and I'd bet a lot are in the same boat as him (no pun intended).

This hogwash by Canada though - just another socialist attempt at relying on government to fix something which arguably, might not even need fixing.
Old Mar 22, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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I dunno ... you have Al Gore!

Al Gore for Prime Minister... er, God.

Toronto practically worships the guy. We're the smug San Francisco of Canada.

When the man came to UofT to give his speech, everything was sold out, some tickets going for $1000.

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