http://www.570news.com/news/national...tent=n0319111A

I wonder how much this will affect buyers choices if this budget goes through, i wonder where the new camaro would fit in.

 

Sucks to be in Canada.

 

Now this is rediculous. You want to give people tax credits for buying so called "green" cars, go right ahead. And I don't even really agree with the concept of taking money out of my pocket to reward someone for their choice in transportation.

But to outright penalize people for buying what they want boarders on socialist legislation. And we've already seen it here with the gas guzzler tax.

 

If it was directed towards large SUVs for personal use, then I could see that. Save styling, I haven't seen a reason to date why anyone would pass up a Trailblazer for a Yukon or why the Aviator was passed up for a Navigator. I can see throwing Durangos in the mix since they are also pretty mammoth in size.

I see a glimmer of reason including small SUVs in rebates, and including the Impala reinforces my belief that most people buying these SUVs would be just as well served by cars. Mini Coopers get rebates.

But I don't feel there should be government rebates on purchases. I feel government rebates should be directed only towards things that actually save the government money. I'm already going to save money buying a Mini in fuel, so the government giving me additional money for it is a waste of money. Sure, like everyone else, I'll take it. It's free money. But it's a still waste. Also, subsidizing electrics and hybrids I feel is wrong. These things should stand on their own advantages and disadvantages.

If there's a small tax break on these things, that's one thing. But a government rebate?

 

Thats a pretty hefty hike.

 

But see, it shouldn't have to make sense to you or me or anyone else. A person should not be penalized by the government for choosing one product over another. If I want to buy a Suburban instead of a small wagon, well, I'm already paying a heftier price to put gas in it. That alone should steer most people away from the Suburban, unless one really REALLY wants it. Not some artificial, government-enforced scolding.

 

I saw that yesterday, i think its pretty retarded.

 

Not enough elbow room. Not enough leg room. Not able to seat more than 5 people. Not enough room in general.

I use my Tahoe like a truck. I haul cargo and passengers in it. I've had 9 people in it including me. (It was my son's high school basketball team, so they weren't short.) I've hauled 12-ft 2x6s, concrete, 50-inch plasma TVs, and both sons entire dorm contents back and forth to college. Try that in a Trailblazer or Aviator.

It is my daily driver, even with only two passengers. Gas mileage does suck and this morning at $3.369 for regular unleaded, it cost me $72 to fill 'er up. About the only thing I'd trade my Tahoe for is a new Silverado Crew... once they add the 6A to the options list. And that is only because I rarely need to carry more than 5 people anymore.

Plain and simple, the Trailblazer is too damn small for a wide body like me to be able to drive comfortably.

 

All I have to say is I laugh at the idea of the toyota prius and other hybrids that use batteries as being enviromentally friendly... Maybe. just maybe once they are driving on the road they might be.. But there are alot of other things to take into consideration with those cars, like how much damage to the enviroment do they cause in order to creat the parts for them. The production of the nickle for those batteries is disasterous on the enviroment as I am sure people in ontario canada know very well. and then what happns if the car is in an accident and the battery breaks... or how about what do you do after 100,000 miles after the lifespan of the battery is toast. Surew not as much carbon to contribute to the O so bad global warming (another debateable topic) But the physical damage to the earth otherwise is greater. heh.

Anyhow. The hiking of prices on such vehicles is stupid really. they are already paying through the nose to drive them through gas and the taxes on gas.

 

I expect the new Camaro to be $0

What are other V8 cars like the Impala SS or German V8s?

 

Just based on the people I've seen, you're probally one of the rare ones who actually need-use something that big.

Most seem to be driven by upper-middle class housewives to shuttle kids around because of the "bigger is safer" adage, or by people who use it as a stutus symbol.

 

Great. As if paying $50 to fill up my Sunbird wasn't expensive enough. The Conservatives blabbed on for years while in opposition about the gas tax being too high (and not being used for roads)....then they get in and say well we cut the GST, therefore gas prices should be cheaper (they were....1 cent cheaper).

Why are pickup trucks exempt from this? Do pickup trucks somehow put out less pollution? Didn't think so.

I'm sure the new Camaro will have some sort of CAGS deal to get it under the gas guzzler deal. Although I see Germany just bases their vehicles taxes on the size of the engine. That doesn't make sense either. A Corvette with it's huge V8 gets better gas mileage than a Porsche with a 4 or 6 cylinder. Yet the Vette gets taxed more.

 

Tahoes, Yukons and even Suburbans are a dime a dozen these days. The new status SUV seems to be the BMW X5 in these parts. (Oakland-East Bay.)

I do feel the Tahoe is a safe vehicle though. I was t-boned in it and walked away unscathed. The Tahoe needed body work, but the frame remained straight and it was actually driveable. I'd buy another Tahoe today, if I needed one. In fact, I'm getting ready to sell the older Tahoe and upgrade to an '04 Yukon Denali*.





*Actually my son has desided to "trade" his M3 for a Denali and I'm finally getting around to selling the "spare" Tahoe soon.

 

They don't want to **** off the farmers more than they already are.

 

That's a wrong aproach, they maybe should have a slightly higher gas tax in large inner cities where smog is a problem, but there just isn't enough evidence to justify a product tax like that.
That's the end product of these Global Warming Alarmist campaign...and maybe is just the tip of the Ice Burg.