Did you even look at the image I linked? That's a new direction right there. Many here still can't accept that the 2005 doesn't look like a 1968 Mustang. Why I don't know. Comparing the cars side by side shows the OBVIOUS differences. The 2005 Mustang has old and new styling cues. It's not like Ford is starting over, they're bringing back the spirit of the car. They can go a lot of places from where they are right now.

I don't think a fresh, new design is any more viable for growth than an older one. In fact, if they bring Camaro back and it looks nothing like the older ones, not one styling cue, then is it really a Camaro? Maybe only in name. But the spirit of that car will be dead. If I buy a Camaro, I don't want it to be a rebadged Australian car. Sure, it'll probably be nice, but it won't be the same.

 

Yes, I looked at the picture... and it looks liek a 2005 Mustang converted to a retro Cougar, just like they did back in the 60's.

Even the designer of the new Mustang says it is retro.

If you put the two side by side, yes there are differences, but just about everything on the car is based on or meant to look like part of a 60's Mustang.

Regardless, the position that blatant retro styling is a bold, new direction is a complete oxymoron.

 

Obviously the car is not a carbon copy, it is, however, a very literal modern interpretation of the original. Perhaps you cannot accept that fact....

Has anyone, Darth included, ever suggested that the next Camaro share NOTHING with the past cars? I don't think so, what we'd like to see is an overall design that is modern and evolutionary yet contains heritage CUES. To suggest the '05 Mustang does that same thing is laughable....it not only is chocked full of cues but its whole overall sillouhuette is inspired by the original.

I think you are exaggerating the arguments of non-retro folks in an attempt to show that we're wrong or just stupid.

 

How does that look anything like a retro Cougar

 

I was kind of joking..

 

First off, I don't think there are very many stupid people on this board. That being said, there are quite a few biased ones, BUT THAT'S OK! I have no problem with people being biased as long as they can admit it.

Second, I think the new Mustang is heavily influenced by the 60's Mustangs in several ways, however, I also see heavy influences from the late model Mustangs as well. That I think is being ignored outright by many of the anti-retro crowd.

Third, what do you consider heritage styling cues on a Camaro? What years would you get them from? I guess we'll have to wait and see what the next "Camaro" will look like though.

BTW, the sillouhuette of the 2005 Mustang is closer to the 2004 Mustang than it is the 1968. I've already seen the sillouhuette comparisons on the Mustang sites.

 

Kind of? You were beginning to scare me

 

Just trying to lighten it up a bit.

But I still stand firm in my beliefs, dammit!

 

Heh, nothing wrong with that. I come off a bit stubborn and blunt sometimes, but I'm not trying to hurt anyones feelings or start fights I just think if something looks good, who cares if it's retro or "retro" I just see so many differences in the 2005 Mustang that it's hard for me to see it as retro. I own a 1967 Mustang so it's easy for me to see the differences and there are a lot, inside and out.

I wouldn't mind adding a Camaro to the list of cars I've owned. I have lots of friends/family that have owned them. At this point in time they just don't offer (offered actually) what I'm looking for. I'm not loyal to any one brand or country as far as cars are concerned. My daily driver is an AWD Japanese car. I like to try everything. I'm looking forward to the new Camaro if it ever comes out.

 

Let me rephrase:

I think your exaggerations imply that we are unreasonable in our objections to retro.

 

I think those of us who can't understand why someone wouldn't consider the 2005 'Stang feel your pain.

i still say it's retro and I know why

 

That couger thing is bad ***. wayy better than the stang it is based on.

retro is cool with me...you get a much better ride and drive, and get the flair of the originals. I used to say( before they started doing it) that they should build modern versions of "hallmark" cars....I don't thing anyone wants to see a neo-retro Gremlin.:lol Ford has takin to remaking there whole 50/60's lineup.

I would love to see some fins myself...I hated the new T-bird because they left the fins out.

 

My first look at the car, if anyone cares, is it's too 2005 Mustang like...I mean, too close to the Fabulous 1st Gen...it needs to go the direction of the C6...modern looking..but hints of the past so subtle it just whispers... c a m a r o ......

 

Thanks for the imput Danno!


To everyone else, how did this retro debate start??

I can understand how it started befor Danno's post, but since he said the car he saw looked new & fresh, and just the front of Crispy's car and some of the rear quarter panel flares were on the car he saw, and that he posted a photo shop of the car he saw, I don't see why we're still having a "retro" discussion at all?

To me it sounds like the "CAR" is going to be a good looking fresh ride.

 

I think it's a combination of alot of passionate opinions over what is and isn't retro along with should the next car be or not be retro and then it just snowballs from there.

I think Ive made it clear where I stand on both issues