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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by danno02SS
For those of you that are new to this topic, here's the original thread. Note the date (almost a year ago).

GONGOS thread
With all the sensitivity over the Camaro name and bringing a new Camaro to light lately, I'm surprised that thread hasn't been locked down yet...
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 02:03 AM
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Not impressed with the Gongos car.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 08:05 AM
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Wow, there's certainly more retro in that Camaro than the 2005 Mustang. I'm not a retro-basher so I think it looks good.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 08:34 AM
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Nice try? I don't think some of us are understanding what we've been reading... this MIGHT be very close to the real McCoy!
Oh, trust me, I know what this is all about I just "think" this attempt at it is a bit too retro compared to what the C-car may look like.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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Hmm....so the letter writing campaign began on the 9th. On the 10th, Evok proposes somone come up with a photochop concept with apparent insider information (which he apparently needs to verify with someone before release.

Is this a "back channel" attempt by someone at GM to pacify us?

If it is...Crispey better get the chop done correctly!

Red? Hello? Is this thing on?

Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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I like the drawing, and the retro approach. The only thing I dont like is that Ford already did it. The last thing I want to here from my Ford loyal inlaws is that GM copied another Ford Idea.

On the other hand the Corvette isnt retro and I love that, too bad they cant sell those for 25grand
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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Yeah, but isn't the new Corvette a Viper copy? You have to admit, those front ends are pretty freaking similar
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Ed 2001 SS
Hmm....so the letter writing campaign began on the 9th. On the 10th, Evok proposes somone come up with a photochop concept with apparent insider information (which he apparently needs to verify with someone before release.

Is this a "back channel" attempt by someone at GM to pacify us?

If it is...Crispey better get the chop done correctly!

Red? Hello? Is this thing on?

Yeah, that's what it sounded like to me too (conspiracy hat: ON). What I find so hilarious is that GM probably got word that Ford was going "retro" on the Mustang early on and decided to follow suit knowing the Mustang would be a big hit. Now they're hearing all the retro hate from the boards and want to soften everyone up to the idea it might be retro.

I think it'll make little difference personally. Even the foaming at the mouth retro haters will claim it the greatest Camaro of all time and happily change their tune. After all, they're loyal aren't they?
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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I am a retro hater......

Do I like the look? Yes, very much? Do I think it is the CORRECT path for the car to take? No.....that's why I don't like retro.

Same deal with the mustang...I don't dislike Retro because its ugly..on the contrary, I think its a good looking car, but I just disagree with full-out retro as a design concept because it boxes you in and does not evolve the name at all.

Getting back to simpler roots is great, but if I wanted a '68 Camaro I'd go buy a '68 Camaro.

I think you way-oversimplify the anti-retro crowd.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Chris 96 WS6
but I just disagree with full-out retro as a design concept because it boxes you in and does not evolve the name at all.

I think you way-oversimplify the anti-retro crowd.
I disagree. I think it gives you a new direction to grow. Here's an example:



That's a photochop of a 2005 Mustang. What one could be changed to look like a Cougar. It borrows from current cars and still retains much of the 2005 Mustang's lines.

I'm not way-oversimplifying the anti-retro crowd. I just think their arguement is weak.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by PaperTarget
I disagree. I think it gives you a new direction to grow....

I'm not way-oversimplifying the anti-retro crowd. I just think their arguement is weak.
How can retro styling give you a "new direction" when it obviously travels down a path that has already been traveled?

I don't think you can successfully argue that a retro design presents more ways to evolve the nameplate than a fresh, new design that stands on it's own.

The very idea of retro styling, in and of itself, is repetitive.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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I can't believe i'm stepping into this fire again, but....

I liked the concept too, but for my tastes it was a tad too retro and not evolutionary/revolutionary enough. Now if you changed it as the other post indicated, lower the front of the hood and make the grill slimmer, you're onto something.

I don't know if I accept the idea that retro is a form of 'reset' buttom either. But to each his own and more power to all of us.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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Am I the only one who can't see Crispy's link?
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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No, his link has been down for days... I think he pulled it because he is working on the next round of changes. See my earlier post for a link to the image that was on his site. I might pull it myself very soon because of traffic.
Old Mar 18, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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There was/is another link about halfway down the first page that I think is working.



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