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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Re: C&G on the 5th Gen Camaro

Originally Posted by Chuck!
Remember the Holden SSX

I never really understood why they poured money into developing this car then never used it?
The system's in use in the Holden Aventra, The Holden Crewman Cross 6 and Cross 8, the HSV coupe 4, the Holden Avalanche & HSV Avalanche XUV, and a version of it is under the Sigma chassis of the all new Cadillac STS AWD.

All Holdens use the same chassis.

Sigma, Zeta, and the "V" chassis have some things in common.

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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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I'll be getting whatever the top model is.

SS or Z28, it doesn't matter. It's unfortunate i'll probably have to wait a year or so after the Camaro debuts to get one.
Old Feb 20, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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well what nobody is coming to realize is that GM is prolly having an extremely tough time with the new camaro...First off the consumer is wanting a camaro to compete/beat any mustang (up to cobra) well to do that in 07/08 the camaro has to be around 500hp...then everyone wants it to be comparable in price to the mustang I.E. $20k to $30k...now heres the problem...whats gonna happen to the c6 and z06 corvette sales???????? IMO its gonna be the same as the 4th gen...4th gen SS and z28s are gonna come to close to the vette and z06 for $20k cheaper and GM is just going to kill the program again. Dont get me wrong ill be in line just like the rest of yall for the new camaro, but how long it lasts is gonna be the next order of business.
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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I think the AWD should be an option on the v6 as well. Granted, the v6 ain't as fast as the v8's, but the v6s have a good deal of power too, and are more affordable for the younger folk that can't afford the v8 insurance. I drive a v6, bought it when I was 16, and it's plenty fast enough for me to not get me in trouble all the time. Secondly, anyone that says a RWD doesn't drive in snow is insane and needs to learn how to drive, I drive my v6 as the daily driver in MI and I have not gotten stuck yet, and my sub didn't plow until 2 or 3 days after each heavy snow fall.

Back on track with the 5th gen, AWD is an interesting idea but I think it should remain optional... let the people who are die hard RWD fans stay true, regardless of v6 or v8.
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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It would be nice for an "LT" model with luxury appointments, combined with a hi-po HFV6 or perhaps a Northstar V8 with 6spd auto and AWD...sorry, I just woke up and the wheels are turning.
Old Feb 21, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MissedShift
They can sculpt all they freaking want. They're still a day late and a dollar short. Ford is wiping the floor with them in this type of market, because of their own bad judgment, and theres nothing they can do right now to help it.

A day late, definetly. A dollar short, how do you know this? You can't say anything about the car being cheap or a letdown until it debutes.

The bad judgement of GM's previous manamgent got us into this situation. I believe the current manamgent is going to get us our Camaro. They are doing something right now, they're developing an all-new RWD platform.
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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Re: C&G on the 5th Gen Camaro

Originally Posted by Z284ever
Yeah, this thread is sort of a re-run, but at least we're discussing a 5th gen for a change.
Very true. This forum was gloomy for a long time.

Anyhow, I think optional AWD would be great for the Camaro. The Mustang is getting ready to receive some form of removable roof, so the Camaro could space itself from the Mustang again by offering AWD. It would be a GREAT option for v6 buyers and the badge rally sport would actually hold some truth to it. Not to mention you bring over a breed of enthusiast that would've never looked at a Camaro in the first place.

I say if it can be done and remain optional, do it.
Old Feb 22, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Re: C&G on the 5th Gen Camaro

Originally Posted by meissenation
I think the AWD should be an option on the v6 as well. Granted, the v6 ain't as fast as the v8's, but the v6s have a good deal of power too, and are more affordable for the younger folk that can't afford the v8 insurance. I drive a v6, bought it when I was 16, and it's plenty fast enough for me to not get me in trouble all the time. Secondly, anyone that says a RWD doesn't drive in snow is insane and needs to learn how to drive, I drive my v6 as the daily driver in MI and I have not gotten stuck yet, and my sub didn't plow until 2 or 3 days after each heavy snow fall.

Back on track with the 5th gen, AWD is an interesting idea but I think it should remain optional... let the people who are die hard RWD fans stay true, regardless of v6 or v8.

I sort of agree with you, but try driving around in the snow with high performance z rated wide tires. I can't count the amount of times on both hands I have gotten stuck going up hills, and have had to have passenger/passengers get out and push. Even the stock GSC aren't that great in the snow. Never driven a v6 though.
Old Feb 23, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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Re: C&G on the 5th Gen Camaro

Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
There will NOT be a live axle on the Camaro. You can take that to the bank.
thank the gods! just when i was about to lose any remaining respect for GM
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