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"Big 3 need Bush's buy-in, not a bailout "

Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:31 PM
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Re: "Big 3 need Bush's buy-in, not a bailout "

He said more medical training than his MD which is probably incorrect. I will not dispute anything in your post. I do however know a thing or two about how much education is required to be an MD, and I was skeptical that it would take longer to become a chiropractor. Now as to whether or not his chiropractor knows more about medicine than his doc, I wouldn't be able to answer that one

Technically to be an MD you don't have to have an undergraduate degree. For example, in Texas most schools only require 90hours... but with the degree of competition it is highly unlikely that you are going to be accepted w/o a bachelor's. You also don't have to do a residency to go into general practice... A lot of primary care type physicians seem to be some sort of specialty like Family Medicine, or even Internal Medicine though.
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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Re: "Big 3 need Bush's buy-in, not a bailout "

Originally Posted by HAZ-Matt
He said more medical training than his MD which is probably incorrect. I will not dispute anything in your post. I do however know a thing or two about how much education is required to be an MD, and I was skeptical that it would take longer to become a chiropractor. Now as to whether or not his chiropractor knows more about medicine than his doc, I wouldn't be able to answer that one

Technically to be an MD you don't have to have an undergraduate degree. For example, in Texas most schools only require 90hours... but with the degree of competition it is highly unlikely that you are going to be accepted w/o a bachelor's. You also don't have to do a residency to go into general practice... A lot of primary care type physicians seem to be some sort of specialty like Family Medicine, or even Internal Medicine though.
Actually quite a few DCs have MDs or other special degrees. For example this is an office that my boss helped open. Dr. Arthur is a great guy and incredibly smart. He has like 4 different acronyms after his name if he wants to list all of his qualifications.

http://eaglelakechiropractic.com/aboutus.html
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
Actually quite a few DCs have MDs or other special degrees. For example this is an office that my boss helped open. Dr. Arthur is a great guy and incredibly smart. He has like 4 different acronyms after his name if he wants to list all of his qualifications.
I'm sure he is smart, and I didn't mean to take anything away from him in my posts.
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Re: "Big 3 need Bush's buy-in, not a bailout "

I don't believe, in this day and age, a catistrophic clause would be enough. We are being overrun with many, non-immediate, life long, degenerative diseases. Many not fatal, but could lead to fatal "diseases", and lower classes CAN'T afford these "life supporting" medications, not at current and rising costs.
And Medicare/Medicaid patients DO care about rising costs. My mom for one, a widow, and with asthma, on a fixed monthly income...they were'nt rich.
She for example recieves like $700-800/month, then MUST pay a "spend-down" like Co-Pay of just over $250/month out of that, to use her so called "health insurance", which DON'T cover many procedures needed at her age. Leaving her, to pay her utilites and food and misc, with what's left. Hardly got it good...and Bush just cut into that.
Myself, my Co-Pay is $65 per visit, my doctor only charges $59, perscriptions $25 per....us UAW guys got it good.
And we are ONLY allowed to visit physicians ON the PLAN. Many of us had to give up our doctors and find new ones on our plan. With 3 kids, even this can put a strain on my finances. All 3 kids usually get sick nearly the same time.

When I was laid off recently, my physician, let me have my BP meds from samples, and only charged me $25 per visit, "he said" the prices had to be higher for insurance patients b/c of negociated down costs.(his words)
And he did say, with the rising costs of Med Mal, it's becoming unprofitable to be a doctor today, having to pay many years on their HIGH Med school costs too.

If Tort Reform is only about Lawsuits, it's NOT going to fix everything. Someone IS getting filthy stinking rich off the Medical/Insurance industrys. And Big Pharma is making doctors into little more than "drug pushers", requiring them to attend seminars about their drugs.
I've hardly been to any doctor lately, interested in curing anything, just in finding you an appropriate med to deal with your symptoms. (I recently had Pnuemonia for 8 months, and a spot in my lung that won't go away...and I'm a NON-smoker. And I had nearly 18 months of diagnostics by various institutions, including Ohio State U. Hospital. Everything short of removing 1/3 of my lung for a biopsy done...turned up NOTHING conclusive.....?
Even so it would be a "conflict of interests", if you were cured, they'd be broke and out of buisness. So you see a lot of research, but MOST if not ALL, is done in "treatment" of diseases, not "cures", that's ALL the Big Pharma/ Reseach foundations give grants for...diseases like cancer, which my dad died of.(which I found out through research, it was personal) Which is a Multi-Billion dollar buisness, so don't look for any cures in the near future.

The system IS broken, and you can't just boycott healthcare, your stuck, and they know it.
Govt is there to serve and protect, and people need some kind of policys to protect them from the Giants of health care/Insurance/Pharma. Peoples lives are on the line. No other entity has the power to affect these Giants. Profits be damned...

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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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Re: "Big 3 need Bush's buy-in, not a bailout "

90rocz I feel sorry for your loss of your father and I hope you find or have already found a better job to support your family with.

But remember there are holistic doctors across the country who do help without pills. I know of only 1 in my area but she is fully trained and quite competent. We need a revolution in the healthcare industry to occur but alas like other things that need to happen it doesn't seem possible to reach the masses with enough of a message to motivate them.
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