I think the next Camaro should get those neat things you guys talk about.
The inline engines, the V-6s, the turbos, the AWD, the rear suicide door-lets, etc.

That would be cool.

 

If the Camaro had the same engine as the Corvette and was just RWD but just a lil less aerodynamics and more weight...it would be a bit slower than the 'Vette...the way Chevy wants it.....
But if it was AWD w/ a lil more weight, it would be right about as quick as a Corvette to 60 but have a lesser top speed. I would be cool w/ the AWD formula for a Camaro for 2 reasons... I live in the snowbelt and I care more about 0 - 60 than I do top speed since I will probably never get to reach that anyway on any roads around here....I'll give up 10MPH for the superiority of AWD in all weather conditions and faster off the line slam. But then again...it would be deviating from its roots... I dunno...I'm 50/50 on this....I think I agree w/ the general consensus here where GM should have some AWD V8 sports car...as long as its not a Subaru...

 

If Camaro goes the way of the VE platform you can probably almost guarantee that AWD will atleast be an Option.

As Decromin has said most of the power is in the rear so it should still be fun to drive..

 

I think it was about a couple of years ago when the idea of making the Firebird to a "high tech" (AWD + TT I6) sports car was first brought up. Its a compelling idea, but I'm not much of a fan of AWD for the weight and price hikes.

 

How much extra weight does AWD add? 300-500 lbs? I don't see why you guys would complain so much about that? For most consumers, their not even going to realize (or careabout) that extra weight...

 

I would complain because the car is already heavy enough!

Remember that video with the 350Z, S2000, M3 and Porsche runnign around the track? Remember how everyone said they want the next Camaro to be able to run with those cars? If you notice one thing the drivers kept commenting on going into turns was the cars weight. Not to mention strait line performance as well, weight means a lot.

If a current F-body already weighs and average of 3500lbs, do we really want one weighing 3800-4000lbs? And this car is supposed to compete with the import competition, all of which are praised for their nimble handling capabilities? I dont think thats a good idea.

 

Thats a good point about the weight. I don't think an AWD Camaro should be built unless it can be kept to 3600lbs. or less.

 

AAAHHHHHH! It's BLASPHEMY!!! No muscle car should EVER be AWD!

 

Just a side note. Holden will likely have a greater variety of the new VE cars than we will have here in the US. Just because Holden is working on certain models, doesn't mean all those models will be produced here under different names.

Certain core high volume vehicles will be made here (ie: sedans and coupes). But vehicles expected to be produced in relatively low numbers (niche vehicles) will be produced by Holden, and imported here. But not every variation of the VE will be sold here.

 

Of course I would love to have it! It would be great for those of us who actually see snow every year. Do I think it will happen? Not a chance.

Obviously, people will spout off about things like it would add too much weight or there really isn't a platform for it. These are all of the logical answers I would agree with.

What I don't understand is why so many are actually "opposed" to the idea. Even if it were available, it wouldn't be a base option. It would be a high dollar option that would probably put the cost of the car somewhere into Corvette territory. So it's not like you would have to give up RWD. I don't think GM would ever compromise that. Making it a high dollar option for a select few would be great, but I'm sure it would be far too pricey for the likes of me. Still, one can dream.

 

I don't see it on camaro but I could see it on El Camino which as GuionM pointed out will most likely be a low volume vehicle and therefore imported from Holden if the Tariff is taken off of it, if the Tariff stays around I could see it built in the states.

 

an AWD v8 would be a great idea, just not on a camaro...if they brought back a rwd camaro and still offered some other awd v8 car, they would havgain 2 segments of the market that they have ignored

and in terms of weight, there should no reason not to get next gen camaros at a low 3XXX weight, they are just WAY overweight for no good reason now...

if you made a v8 rwd camaro at 3100-3200lbs, then a different awd v8 car at <3500lbs, you would have my new summer and winter cars

 

Why can't it just be a Camaro ZAWD. Then people could start saying "I got a zaaawwwwd", just like "naaawwwwsss".

OK, I was joking, but I guess I don't understand why it can't be a Camaro, other than for the technical reasons.

 

No. Ok. No. No. and HELL NO!

Chevy has always been about low-brow and low-buck (per see) performance.

The base Camaro should have a V6.... straight 5 or 6??? No way.

Turbo... Nyet... I'd rather have a supercharger.

AWD? No frickin way! It adds weight, would jack up the price substancially and is rediculous on anything named "Camaro".

Rear-suicide doors? Go buy an RX8 then. The Camaro should remain a two-door 2+2.

Keep it up and you're gonna make my list!

 

I think Darth had asked the AWD question on a different topic. In that topic, there was also the idea of offering a S/c as an option on the v6 cars. Anyways, the below is my quote from there....

"I had a similar idea, but as an option on the base car in place of a S/c'er. I thought that'd suite the everyday consumer better and help bring in more sales than a S/c'er option. It would also make the base car more practical since performance isn't its strongest point.

The idea isn't bad. My only gripe is that the v8 models are heavy as is. Throw in an AWD system on the already heavy SS/Z28, and you'll have a car heavier than the current 03 Cobra. Throw in IRS too and you're talking one heavy SS/Z28.

Since the z28/SS cars are also popular drag cars and capable of big HP #'s, AWD would mean the potential for more parts breakage and cost of fixing when pushed to the limits . I'd rather break 1 axle rather than 2. The base cars usually aren't subjected to this, so i thought it'd suite them a little more. There's also that issue of extra drivetrain loss and a weakened top-end. Porsche is a classic example, their fastest cars are all RWD (GT2, Carrera GT).

For the average consumer (non-enthusiasts who buy non-enthusiast models like v6 cars) though, the practicality would more than make up for everything i've mentioned. To them, the base car with an optional AWD system would look that more attractive."

So i'd say NO to AWD on the top performance models, and YES to AWD on the lower non-performance models. I'd love to own an AWD 240hp 3.9L v6 5th gen. Since the base is the volume car, it makes more sense to offer the AWD optional on them.

EDIT: Now if the SS is to be positioned as the Luxury model, an AWD option wouldn't be bad either. The z28 (all performance model) would stick to RWD. Now that doesn't sound like a bad idea. Hmmmm...