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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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Bob Lutz just got back to me, and he said this pic has nothing to do with Alpha.
I was about to say....I wonder if this is an old FWD Epsilon styling exercise, a Malibu Maxx with Cadillac skin.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Bob Lutz just got back to me, and he said this pic has nothing to do with Alpha.


Tell him to register on this forum!
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Bob Lutz just got back to me, and he said this pic has nothing to do with Alpha.
Waiting on an e-mail myself (no, not from BL) But I'm pretty sure this was the Espilon Cadillac that at the time was favored over the Alpha.

If it is, then you can thank GM's government financed bankruptcy that this car didn't happen. As long as GM was believing that they could weather through their financial meltdown, they were going to use Espilon for a small cadillac instead of spending the money on the Alpha.

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Tell him to register on this forum!
No need. It's actually fairly easy to contact him.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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Glad to read that pic isn't ALPHA as that isn't going to get any 1/3 Series or IS shoppers to even walk into a Caddy dealer.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Given the grainy "security camera" style picture, complete with JPEG-artifacts, I'm inclined to believe this thing is a complete fake.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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From post number 5....

The "Europe Only" BTS replacement has been in the work for a few years. So a hatchback was included mainly for the European market.
Which is what this picture is showing.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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So it is the 2nd gen BTS/BLS for Europe that is now canceled. Mystery solved.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Bob sent me another email....

He wants me to tell you guys to "forget the dumb internet stuff". "We will NOT screw this up".
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Bob sent me another email....

He wants me to tell you guys to "forget the dumb internet stuff". "We will NOT screw this up".
Did he attach a jpg? You seem to have Bob's ear today...
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by IREngineer
Did he attach a jpg? You seem to have Bob's ear today...
No jpg's................................yet.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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Glad that's not it - ugly in the extreme.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Bob sent me another email....

He wants me to tell you guys to "forget the dumb internet stuff". "We will NOT screw this up".
Did you ask him about any Chevy badged Alpha varient.... oh what's the name for that car... you know a RWD 2+2 afordable coupe looking for a 6th generation platform......
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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That rear hatch looks terrible. Glad this isn't the real ATS.
Old Aug 19, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Bob sent me another email....

He wants me to tell you guys to "forget the dumb internet stuff". "We will NOT screw this up".
glad to hear it. as others have complained...this car is lamer than the current Civic.......not at all what a 3-series competitor should be....unless you're competing with a 3-series that doesn't exist, or are blind.
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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It was for blind people, who wanted a 3-series, but couldn't afford one.

Luckily, they found out that that market is rather small.



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