How much do you think a 4th gen would be worth 10-15 years down the line. Especially with a stock car vs a 20k plus worth of mods car.

 

Since it seems before long we'll have sedans running as quick as LS1 Camaros, and speed was pretty much the 4th gen's main if not only claim to fame, I wouldn't bet on them appriciating very much.

 

Yeah...you might want to look at increasing that time period. At least 20 years and more likely 30. The second gens are only starting to have a higher desirability thus increased prices.

What is an late 80's Camaro worth in good condition? Good miles? I'd think that would be comperable....

 

Don't expect to get $20k back for your $20K in mods. In fact don't expect to get much at all for them.

When I look for a project....I will always pay more for a stock unmolested car.

Unless someone like Lingenfelter or Katech did the mods themselves...I am not willing to pay any premium for them at all.

Most conversations go like this:

ME: How many miles are on it?

SELLER: I've only got 5,000 on the new motor.

ME: New motor huh?

SELLER: Yeah, I've got 13-1 compression, a "race" cam, supercharger with 30lbs of boost. Sometimes it pings alittle if I don't use Avgas. It's got "special" bolts on the rods...I'm sure it'll rev to 9000 rpm. Me and my car buddy put it together in my garage....because we wanted to do it right. I've got $25k in the motor....I just want to get what I've put into it.

ME: Thanks for your time.

 

Im not saying you'll get back what you put into it. Im saying how will the value of it be compared to one that is stock.

 

I think way down the road, a stock car will always be worth more than a built up car.

Look at 1st or 2nd gen Camaros for example. A clean, stock, original Z/28 or big block SS will always fetch a premium.

The owners of the same cars with non original motors built at the neigborhood speed shop, with "custom" paint, etc... may believe that their cars are worth just as much...or more.

Guess which ones will sell and which ones will be in Auto Trader for 18 months.

 

especailyl considering people that buy older cars usually want to restore it, or are looking for a project car to modify to their own taste.... so they don't want a car thats already been questionably altered...


plus with mods, its questionable what kind of parts and how they were installed.. and when they wear, will you have to redo everything over again + more because of previous mods?


Personally, I'm always for a lookout a "1/2 finished" project car.. basically frame and body panels are restored/excellent original condition, interior a little worn but clean, and everything is in decent mechanical shape, but probably should be reconditioned.. maybe stuff isn't totally original, but its a "practical" replacement (like a replacement crate engine) Trouble is, unless the owner died or is in serious debt or is moving and has to sell the car.. you are not going to find one..

 

Stock and original unmodified cars will always... always be worth more money.

Once you start making modifications, the value drops significantly. The exception to the rule of course is factory or dealer modified limited edition cars which tend to be worth more, like the Yenkos, Baldwins, Danas, Bergers, etc. For 4th gens, today's Berger 427's or the Dale Ernhart LE Camaros will continue to escalate in value... provided they aren't modified further.

If you're buying/restoring for investment purposes, then it pays to keep it original. For the most part you'll get a return on your investment.

If you're modifying/hotrodding it to make it fast, don't expect it to ever be worth what you put into it. I believe that's true even for highly modified g-cars like those that are putting modern drivetrains and suspensions on 1st gens.

Look at any ads selling modified classics and they'll say something like "Over $30k invested, asking $19,500" or something to that extent. Where as if you buy an original '67 Z/28 with a numbers matching drivetrain, you can pretty much get your money back or more. (I saw a restored "correct" 67 Z/28 sell for $60K recently and I've seen #'s matching project 67 Z/28's selling for up to $25k.)

I pays to keep it original.

 

Best and most honest advice you can get: The less you put into it (via mods) the more you'll get out of it when you sell it.

 

Hey jg95z28 you saw a 67 Z/28, ahh dang that must be one rare z/28 since they didn’t make them till 69. You did mean 1969 right?

 

Holy ****. QUICK...you'd better let these guys know...they named a website after one!

http://www.1967z28.com/

 

Hey SMUJeremy I wasn't saying his car was a Z/28. Just asking if the car he saw was a 67 z/28. Also I screwed up and mixed up the the year on the z/28 with the ZL1 in 1969.

 

If you want to see what a 4th gen will be worth in 10 years, just look at what a 93 is worth today

 

Where do you get your information? I need to be sure to avoid that source.

 

Yeah I plan on restoring a 1995 Z28 in a few years. But I'm not doing it for the $$$. I'm doing it because they are my favorite Camaro’s. I want to build a nice nitrous 383 mated to a strong 6 speed. But other than that just like my V6 is now. Green and sexy. Maybe leather....maybe. Do it for the love of the car not the $$$. My mustang project is for the love. I love first gen stangs. After I'm done I might make a grand out of it. That wont come close to all the work I’m putting into it. But when I get it done or when I finish my 95 Z28 a few years form now it will all be worth it just cruising down the road feeling good that I'm in a beautiful old car with a sh*t load of hp.