MotorTrends numbers:

0-60: 5.2 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.7 @ 103mph
60-0: 112ft
Skidpad: .87G

It would be interesting to see what it could do in cooler/winter air.

Not bad for a boat. LOL

 

Oh... so 40k isnt to much for a Cam....
Ahhhh.... nevermind

I can sympathize, but hell even a Mustang GT fully loaded out is busting the 40k barrier. I won't reasonably expect Ford to hold the line on pricing as time goes on, just gotta hope at some point inflation gets sekced in the eye (as a realist I suppose I'll be on my deathbed in the old folks home when they finally get ahold of it).

 

I kinda like it. How can GM not choose to compete with this by offering a rebadged G8 as a Chevy???

 

Agreed, I like the SHO, but the G8 generates more excitement for me (if only they would have made a wagon model ) GM should really rethink thier descion to let the G8 go away and not keep it as a Chevy.

 

Those saying 38k is too expensive, what were you expecting? 28k? This car is going to be a decently equipped (in standard trim), full-size, 365hp Twin-turbocharged, AWD sports-sedan. Those don't come cheap. Heck, the old SHO's were never cheap either. @ 38k, it still costs less than an AWD 300c or a Fwd Buick Lucerne Super and not that much more expensive than a decently optioned Toyota Avalon Limited or other less powerful entry level luxury/sporty sedans. For what it is, it's actually priced right.

This car is pretty much the GT500 of the taurus line. Ford isn't expecting it to sell in high volumes....that's what the cheaper regular taurus is for.

Regarding size: @ 202" long, it's actually larger than the regular (non-extended) versions of the 7series, A8, and LS460. It's big.

Hopefully this engine finds its way into the smaller, lighter, and hopefully cheaper Fusion. That i'd be very interested in.

 

Overpriced and underwhelming if the reviews are anything to go by.


There is no way an enthusiast (er, that's somebody who enjoys their driving) would take the SHO over a G8 GXP... It's just a shame that the Pontiac is being discarded.

 

the MKS is the Taurus...same platform, same assembly line

 

the reason the SHO is so much is that it pretty much gets every option known to man. its got heated and cooled massaging seats for petes sake. I dont know ANY car under 80k with that option

 

Same platform, different car, MKS is a little bigger. It isn't like the Fusion/MKZ relationship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_D3_platform

 

Didn't you deride this very same magazine for the results of the Camaro/Mustang/Challenger test for not testing "to your liking"? Yet when this particular article produces a few words you like and are able to cherry pick and post here, all is well? Should we also put this article "in context" like you wished for us to do with that one?

Hmmm...have you driven them both? Isn't that all we ever heard when it came to the Camaro.... "wait till you see it and sit in it and drive it before passing judgement"?
Yet you don't see how an enthusiast could chose the one that you think is inferior?

Interesting, though hardly surprising.

Bob

PS...FWIW...If I were in the market, there's a VERY good chance I'd pick the GXP too. Not the point though.

 

Probably at or slower than what G8s were doing last fall.

So why is this $40K Ford better than a $30K G8 GT?

 

Which is into GT500 territory.

Neglecting the 4-door, family versus sport thing... which vehicle will get you more looks, more attention, and be collectible as crazy from the day it's born until it's 50th anniversary? Which will become a family heirloom? etc. etc.

I've already voted on the SHO in the thread we had last month.
Love the car, hate the marketing and pricing.

 

Not really a fair comparison IMO.

If you buy a Mustang GT500 and use it as your everyday driver, it is going to lose some of its appeal as a collecter car or family heirloom. Which of course, most people won't do. It is more that type of car.

Most who buy a 4 door executive express like a Taurus SHO are going to drive it every day. 4 seasons, rain, snow, whatever. There are lots of cars that cost as much or way more than a GT500 that will have zero collectible value. They just aren't really that type of car. EDIT 3: Also, not everyone buys cars to get more looks or attention... Some want exactly the opposite (hence the term sleeper, and others...). /EDIT3

Besides, you never know. I'm sure when GM was building SS 396 Chevelles 40 years ago, they didn't expect that goofballs would pay high five or low six figures for them in restored condition. They were just freaking Chevelles, run of the mill middleweight family cars!

But really, I'd expect the SHO to be a daily driver for many. I'd expect the GT500 to be a weekend toy car for most. Which of course brings up the whole argument of why spend money on a car if you aren't going to drive it, etc. etc. That's another discussion altogether though.

EDIT: By the way, I'm not a big fan of the pricing either, as I think I've mentioned before. But to me, pricing on new cars in general is pretty crazy. People buy $50k Suburbans and Super Duty pickups, and it blows my mind...

EDIT2: We've been down this road before.

 

This may surprise many of you here.............. but some of us do not want a dedicated performance vehicle. We want to have our cake, and eat it too.

In other words, we want our performance, we want our luxury, we want our tech, and we want our features. We like sophistication, we like AWD, we like a better ride.

One person is not right, and the other is wrong. These are two different types of cars, for two different types of buyers.

If you are about showy performance first............... and don't care as much, about features, fit and finish, "luxury" type appointments............. then the G8 is your car (for as long as you can buy one).

I've been there, I've done that. Now, I want it all. I want to enjoy driving, when I want to, and have a quiet cruise when I want to do that. I want to play with my SYNC, with my voice activated navigation, while sitting in my heated and cooled, massaging seats. I want to stand on the happy pedal, when the feeling strikes, and have the car scoot. I want it to take a corner well, without falling on its face, and I want all that with decent economy (I don't drive like a teenager much).

I also don't care about labels, and have no desire to pay $10/20/30K more, for the same basic thing, with a fancy label. I'm not trying to impress anyone but me, with my automotive purchase.

Thus, the SHO is the car for me. It not being the car for you, means that you have different priorities in your vehicular decisions............... and that is your right.

The thing is, this isn't a "there is only one right answer," conversation. Respect my decision, and the decision of those who like the SHO............... and we will respect you right back.

 

Spot on about each having his / her own priorities.

However, your post almost makes it sound like the G8 is a crude car somehow. It isn't. (EDIT: Just reread it, and I don't think you really meant that; I missed the "as much" the first time.) It may not have all of the features - I have no idea what all the Taurus SHO comes with, but both come with way more than I need... But it isn't like it has a crappy interior, and it sure as heck isn't like it has a poor ride or ride / handling balance. In fact, I'm sure it stacks up more than nicely against the SHO, for a lot less coin apparently (talking G8 GT vs. SHO here).

The GXP turns it up another notch, above where the SHO can play. In that case, you are paying SHO money but perhaps trading some of the luxury doodads for the added performance of the LS3. But choosing a G8 GT will get you the SHO's performance and handling (without the SHO's 59.x / 40.x weight distribution), a fine interior (if not quite as nice as the SHO's), with a significantly lower price of entry.

I think BigBlueCruiser was speaking more of the G8 GT than the GXP.

That said, I certainly have no desire to talk you out of the SHO. It's a sharp car.