from what i've seen and experienced with the rear mount kits, they are really low maintenence and pretty reliable. they run cooler which means less HD parts under the hood to handle the heat. i'm not saying we are gonna see a huge craze but it doesn't seem like it's more of a hassle than owning any other FI car. any real gearhead buying a factory FI car already knows the risk of pushing the car too hard. gm has tried turbo before and had failure(301 turbo t/a) and had success(grand nationals and gnxs). who knows what will come next.

 

The V8's are world class as they are. If you want insane horsepower, drop in the LS7. Whenever I think of a twin turbo setup, affordable does not come to mind. I don't think it fits the bill of what a Camaro is. Benz has some $100,000+ twin turbo V12's, Bently has the TT W-12. Those are the only two twin turbo setups I can think of right now. Cars like the TT Supra, 300ZX, 3000GT VR4, and RX-7 were also uber expensive. They are also unreliable and very expensive to fix.

The 3.6 HF V6 should get the twin turbo treatment IMO. Give it in the neighborhood of 350 to 370hp. This would be a great motor for the new CTS. It could bridge the gap between the base CTS and the CTS-v(assuming the new CTS-v will get the LS7). This would also be a great motor for a sporty RWD Buick sedan and coupe. It could also go into other Caddies like the STS and SRX.

 

Saleen is not really a factory car.

Secondly, it makes absolutely no sense to locate the turbo 10 feet from the motor when you are designing a production car. Not to mention that a post cat turbine will not be happy if there is a catalytic converter failure that expells some of the pieces of the core. Rear mount kit is an unusual solution to the problem of turboing a factory NA car, I will grant it that. But I would assume you could find a way to package a turbo up front if that is what you wanted to do. As evidence to that fact, I submit every turbo car on the market. (They all have the turbo mounted in or near the engine bay).

 

but you have to think of this haz-matt, chevy never built the ss. slp did all the work and chevy sold them. so why not look at it from that aspect. russstang made a good point with the saleen focus. they took a factory car, modified it and sold it. any company could do the same thing with the next gen camaro. i wasn't saying that chevy will build it like that from the factory, but why wouldn't they look into outside sources(like with the ss). and as for what i mentioned with the new cobra, technically speaking, svt builds the cars. not ford. ford supplies them with the car and they do all the testing. it is possible we could see the new mustang roll out of svt with twin turbos. why couldn't we see slp or any other company do the same with a camaro that will sell along side the factory cars like with the gen 4s?

 

Chevy building the SS or not has nothing do with with whether or not the Saleen is factory. SVT is part of Ford and is factory. SS and WS6 weren't exactly done in house, but you could find all the information about them on the respective division websites. I assume that if we took a poll that more people would consider SS factory than would consider Saleen factory. SS's never came with a rear mount turbo so whether or not they were really factory doesn't matter too much to this discussion.

Also, I made no claims about whether or not the SVT Mustang will ever get turbos or not. I am however stating that I do not think we will see a rear mount turbo on a production vehicle. Even if Saleen were to build a turbo Mustang, I would place pretty good odds on the turbo being located up front. Same with and SVT Mustang, same with an SE Camaro (SS's won't be special edition if the 5th gen returns given the new strategy with that trim level).

I will however say that while it is within the realm of possibility that it could happen, I think it is so unlikely that it won't.

 

Ehh.....I don't know. I would say that a motor set up for forced induction from the start has a decided advantage over a similar N/A motor if you are looking for big time power numbers. For instance if you look at the LS1, it is an engine that isn't set up to handle boost. Sure, you can strap on a blower or turbo, but you aren't going to be able to run more than 5-7psi on the stock bottom end before you have to worry about things going pop . Unfortunately, a forged bottom end is not a wallet friendly mod either . On the other hand, the 03-04 Cobras already have a fully forged motor. Simple mods such as a pulley swap can yield quite impressive power gains. Combine that with the fact that once the factory blower is "maxed out", an aftermarket unit can be added and then some really crazy power levels are possible.

With that being said, I would be shocked to see GM go forced induction with a new Camaro. However, the modder in me certainly wouldn't be upset if they did decide to go that route and did it the right way.


-Mike

 

I am aware Saleen is not a factory car, but they still have to comply to US automobile standards, hence why I used that as an example. I do not disagree with you that it is unlikely to see the rear mounted turbo kit either, I was just saying I do not totally discount the possibility of some car ever using it, perhaps as a band aid fix for a model year or something.

I don't like to use the phrase never.

 

Precisely. I might be alittle disappointed initially in a Camaro that didn't do its *** kicking naturally aspirated, but I think I would get over it pretty quick when the modding bug bit me.

 

Yeah I'd buy that

 

OK then, I'll have to remember to never say never