For GMs small cars? Honda and Mazda both have these and I think other Asian car makers will follow. Question is, when will GM?

These 4cly cars can really benefit from another gear or two.

 

about 10 years from now.

 

Oh shut-up, hater!!!



Yeah, I agree that they could use a 5-speed auto at least. I don't know if a 6-speed would really be necessary though?? (wouldn't it almost make for too much transmission to run for a small engine?? I mean, from a drivetrain / parasitic loss standpoint? ).

 

I thought you could get a 6spd in the G6 and the Aura?

 

bingo

the 6 speed autos are already in production vehicles

 

but not on the 4cyl.......which was the point of the thread.

 

well the new civic runs a 5sd and it gets better miliage than the 5sd stick and they have no torque. but with GM's torquer engines a 6sd with a killer first gear wouldn't be a problem.

 

SMALL cars guys....not mid-sized. I'll be specific, delta and Aveo platforms.

The thinking is, closer spaced gears, deeper 1st gear= better performance---something a 4cly automatic could really benefit from. perhaps better mileage too---lower crusing rpm.

 

The Ion sedan debuted w/ a 5 gear auto and it did NOT go over well. Mainly criticized for worse mileage and inability to choose a gear.

 

what year did the ion come out?

 

2003 iirc

 

i haven't found a bad review of it yet (looked at three so far). most liked the 5sd auto.

 

also got more mpg than an 03 cavalier.(30.2 vs 27.8).


but less than the civic(31.2) and corrola(30.9)

 

4cyl. will get 6 speeds after all V6 cars have them