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Old 07-03-2010, 07:55 AM
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Yeah. I am not a huge fan of the I5 myself. The main problem is you don't save enough money over a fullsize and the mileage improvement isn't big enough.

If it got 20/25 mpg and you could get a well equiped crew cab for 25k I think I would have one.
All I can say to that is, my Colorado (which has the I5) gets about 25-26 mpg on the highway and 20-23 mpg mixed (depending on the mix).
I'm pretty a sure a full size truck isn't going to come anywhere near that.

I would bet that a Silverado, regular cab, 2wd, with it's base engine (whatever that is) or any optional engine would probably be no better than 15-16 mpg mixed and 18-19 (maybe 20, if you're lucky) mpg on the highway.
That, to me, is a big difference.

Plus, the fullsizers feel too big to me. I feel like I'm swimming in them.
Remember those Mini-Wheat commercials where the little kid is wearing the adult clothes? That's what I feel like when I'm inside a full size truck. And I'm not a small guy.

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I'm surprised to see Ford and Dodge beat GM (percentage wise) on the HD trucks. I'm guessing that HD trucks bring in a higher profit margin than a standard 1500 truck, so GM can't be happy about that.
GM also had a 4 month hiatus on diesel engine production while they retooled for the LML that's going into the 2011 HD's. These are just now starting to arrive at dealers with any real numbers. There's a likelihood the GM HD sales figures will increase in the coming months.

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Originally Posted by detltu
Yeah. I am not a huge fan of the I5 myself. The main problem is you don't save enough money over a fullsize and the mileage improvement isn't big enough.

If it got 20/25 mpg and you could get a well equiped crew cab for 25k I think I would have one.
Mine gets 19/21 and I paid $24k. It's a 1LT crew cab Z71.

The real argument is in capability - towing capacity, bed size, etc which is the value proposition for the small $ bump to a fullsize, but unfortunately nobody really considers the loss of versatility, i.e. the Colorado crew still fits in a 2-car garage, it can still be parallel parked downtown and with relative ease in tight spaces, and the Z71 is quite agile in more technical offroad pieces than a longer full-size would be.
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Originally Posted by HuJass
The Colorado/Canyon had three things working against it.

The first was before a potential customer knew much about the truck.
The I5.
I think a lot of people were turned off to the truck when they learned that it had an I5. People are scared of change and new things. Not many Americans are familiar with I5 engines. Therefore, they stayed away.
The Colorado should have had a V-6 option to compete with Toyota's & Nissan's V-6s..
Yeah, I constantly had to defend the I5 in my Colorado, that or people couldn't believe it was only a 5cyl. The specs of the engine vs. the competitions V6 almost didn't matter. 270HP I6 4.2L should have been the top engine. The guy who decided the truck didn't need that engine should have been fired.

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The second was when a potential customer saw the interior. Nothing more to say about that.
Wasn't really an issue in late 2003 when it came out, but by 2006 it looked dated. MY 2007 should have seen an update to at least something like they did with the '07 Equinox interior.
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Old 07-05-2010, 08:22 PM
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Yeah, I constantly had to defend the I5 in my Colorado, that or people couldn't believe it was only a 5cyl. The specs of the engine vs. the competitions V6 almost didn't matter. 270HP I6 4.2L should have been the top engine. The guy who decided the truck didn't need that engine should have been fired.
The I6 was too long to fit in the engine bay of the GMT-355s.



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Wasn't really an issue in late 2003 when it came out, but by 2006 it looked dated. MY 2007 should have seen an update to at least something like they did with the '07 Equinox interior.
Nah, it was. I remember hearing and reading people's responses to the interior before the truck really made it to the dealers in large numbers. Nobody was impressed with the interior right from day one.
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The I6 also came out first. There's no reason they couldn't have designed the truck to fit it.
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Originally Posted by ImportedRoomate
The I6 also came out first. There's no reason they couldn't have designed the truck to fit it.
I'm with this guy.

Or how about they just made a truck version of the GMT360s?
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Well if a 360, not too closely. You'd never be able to lift it with the front axle going through the oil pan. (Another brilliant idea.)
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Originally Posted by HuJass
The I6 was too long to fit in the engine bay of the GMT-355s.
Not by much. I think I remember reading that it would it with an electric fan but not the belt driven one like in the TB or on the I5. I also believe I remember reading that the I6 needed about 1-2 more inches. It has been a long time since I followed the Colorado scene so my #'s could be off a little. In 2008 we got the V8, if only that was available on day 1 I don't think people would have complained as much about the I5.

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Nah, it was. I remember hearing and reading people's responses to the interior before the truck really made it to the dealers in large numbers. Nobody was impressed with the interior right from day one.
It was never impressive, but It wasn't any worse than anything else on the market at that time. The only truck with anything substantially better in 2004 was the F150.
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
Or how about they just made a truck version of the GMT360s?
They did




Actually, the reason they split the SUV and pickup into different platforms was for cost reasons.
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I thought the SSR was awesome. (At least it was a kick to drive at GM Autoshow In Motion. ) I wish they would've made a cheaper hard-top version; I'd have bought one if they weren't so darn expensive.
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Originally Posted by Z28x
They did

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Actually, the reason they split the SUV and pickup into different platforms was for cost reasons.
That's not a truck!

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Originally Posted by 30thZ286speed
I remember Chevy also sold a even smaller truck down there called Chevy Luv(remember that name?), but I couldn't find it on any of the websites.
Wasn't it LUV, as in Light Utility Vehicle?
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Originally Posted by jg95z28
I thought the SSR was awesome. (At least it was a kick to drive at GM Autoshow In Motion. ) I wish they would've made a cheaper hard-top version; I'd have bought one if they weren't so darn expensive.
I agree. I always thought the same thing. I remember how I kept reading the retractable hard top was so expensive. If they did a fixed roof for say $29k they would have sold a lot more and averaged out the cost out over more than just the 24,150 convertibles.
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