For those wondering how the pony car wars will shape with with Mustang's new V6 & V8 engines.

Actually this article suggests that it's going to be a very close dogfight indeed.

http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1...aro-v-6/page-3

It's also interesting to note that the 2011 v6 Mustang weighs about 20lbs less than the V6 Camaro RS. And since the Hp rates are roughly the same - it's really going to depend more on the individual driver, than it will the car.

 

I'd wager that weight is at least 200lbs high.

 

Well at 3,750lbs the 2011 V6(305hp) Mustang should be good for about a low14 sec 1/4 mile - just like a 2010 V6 Camaro.

On the other hand a 3,550 lbs 305hp v6 Mustang should be good for a high 13 sec 1/4 mile - which would be faster than a V6 Camaro .

 

and that's what it's gonna weigh so i guess that's that huh?

 

Yeah, apparently the author of that article is still using the erroneous 3750 lb number for the V6 car. It isn't going to be that heavy.

 

Standard V6 Mustang, around 3450. Track Pack V6 Mustang, "under 3500lbs," according to Ford.

 

let's see how ford puts the power to the ground. weight doesn't mean all that much. nissan's gtr is 'only' 480 hp and weighs 4000 pounds and can still smoke 99.5 % of all the cars on the road, some of which have more hp and even lighter than 4000 pounds.

 

The (3800 lb) GT-R is underrated at 480 hp, IMO. Plus it has AWD.

The Camaro is not and does not.

Weight most certainly matters when it comes to performance. The Camaro does, however, have wider rear tires (in RS or SS form).

 

So if what you're saying is true, you think if the GTR was 200-300lbs lighter, it wouldn't perform any better? What a riot!

Weight does matter. If you don't like that fact, submit your complaints to Isaac Newton.

 

It does on planet Earth....

 

Well - I remember in the Motor Trend preview of the 2011 Mustang - they were quoting about 3,500lbs for the V6, and about 3,700lbs for the GT.

And a 3,750lbs, 412hp Mustang GT should match up pretty evenly with a 3,860 lbs 426hp Camaro SS.

But if the V6 Mustang is truely about 3,550 lbs - then the v6 Camaro is going to need one of two possible solutions to keep up. 1st is and extra 15 hp (about 320hp). or the 2nd which would be a 80-100 lbs of weight reduction and a 6 to 10 hp boost.

But then personally - I think all 5th gen Camaros could stand to drop at least 100 lbs.

 

Ford has the 2011 GT coupe at 3603 -

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2...g_GT_Specs.pdf

I bet the 6 ends up right at 3500 and cracks 13's with the standard gears.

 

Okay so it's the GT convertibles that are in excess of 3,700lbs.

If these figure hold - then the Camaro is going to need to lose some weight(nearly 100lbs) and possible extract a little be more power(about 10hp) out of the LLT 3.6 V6 & the LS3/L99 V8s to be competitive.

 

GTR is not underrated as commonly believed. nissan engineers in japan who were posed the same question about the car being underrated explained the low resistance advanced powertrain delivery and much less parasitic drivetrain loss compared with previous vehicles enabled the gtr to produce it's legendary dyno and road performance numbers. the point is weight is not that important more-so than HOW efficiently the power is delivered.

 

read the rest of the post....you're missing the 'bigger' point. the key is delivery of power