2011 Mustang NOTCH
You'll find far more people who disagree with you than agree with you. It sold reasonably well for about 12 years. Several pop songs in the 80's / 90's made references to it. Hardly the mark of a "P.O.S."
I don't see how fox body Mustangs suck. They're easy to modify and are far lighter than our beloved Camaros. The notches in stock form with a 5.0L were around 3000lbs. The notches had stronger bodies than the hatches of the time. If I wanted to build an all out drag car, I'd join the masses and build a notch Mustang. I like my cars to be able to handle a little bit too though.
Anyway, to the OP, it's a good interpretation, I just got the wrong idea when looking at the thread title.
Anyway, to the OP, it's a good interpretation, I just got the wrong idea when looking at the thread title.
5thGenII, you are a very, very talented artist. 
You are 100% correct that ALL Mustangs (at least up till the current one) have either been exclusively or had available notchbacks. Some peoples car knowledge evaporates when you go back more than a few years.
But with that said, the roofline on your drawing does look very Mopar-like. If not the current Challenger, then certainly like the Venom concept of late last decade. Perhaps use the 60s Mustang or even the post 98 Stang for inspiration... just a suggestion.
... and to the bigger aftermarket community than Camaro had.
.... and the media and public that loved the fact that for the price of a V6 RS, you could get a very well equpted, if not nearly loaded Mustang GT V8.
You are 100% correct that ALL Mustangs (at least up till the current one) have either been exclusively or had available notchbacks. Some peoples car knowledge evaporates when you go back more than a few years.
But with that said, the roofline on your drawing does look very Mopar-like. If not the current Challenger, then certainly like the Venom concept of late last decade. Perhaps use the 60s Mustang or even the post 98 Stang for inspiration... just a suggestion.

.... and the media and public that loved the fact that for the price of a V6 RS, you could get a very well equpted, if not nearly loaded Mustang GT V8.
And the Taurus most certainly did not (and does not, if you want to count the reborn version).
Have a nice day.
5thGenII, you are a very, very talented artist. 
But with that said, the roofline on your drawing does look very Mopar-like. If not the current Challenger, then certainly like the Venom concept of late last decade. Perhaps use the 60s Mustang or even the post 98 Stang for inspiration... just a suggestion.
But with that said, the roofline on your drawing does look very Mopar-like. If not the current Challenger, then certainly like the Venom concept of late last decade. Perhaps use the 60s Mustang or even the post 98 Stang for inspiration... just a suggestion.

IMHO, the way I did it flows rather well with the rest of the design, makes a bit classier and an altogether different car. I could make a few more attempts at diferent angles and so forth, but as it gets more upright it interupts the sweeping lines of the rest of the body.
If you'f ever seen a 1970 cuda shell being restored, at first glance you'd have a hard time guessing what it is. The c-pillar the way it's designed just works. fatten it up and it does not look right, make it thinner, it does not look right. More slant and...... hopefully you get the picture.
Thanks for the compliments.
About the fox body comments, I've owned 6 myself. I kinda like them due mainly to large aftermarket and the ability to cheaply turn them into whatever you want. Plus they were the original "tuner" car with a turbo-4 in 1979.
Hopefully my income will pick up soon so I can get a Camaro.
I'm willing to bet they could (however I suspect the Fox car was at the very end of its life due to regulatory compliance), a 3200-3300 pound car with a 315hp V8 in the low 20s would appeal to alot of people - not saying it would be a very good car, but I bet it would sell.
Thank you.
I don't think there needs to be a debate, especialy here.
Some people (usually those who never owned or wanted to own a fox) don't like foxes. The boxy-foxes sold from 1979 until 1993, the sold over 100k units I believe for every year.
The fox offered what no one else was offering, a cheap muscle car. When you were on a budget, the Mustang was cheaper than the Camaro and had a more usuable back seat, insurance was lower and the aftermarket support was second to none.
Some people didn't like chevelles or camaros either.
Other than that, thanks for the compliments on the 2011 Notch.
Some people (usually those who never owned or wanted to own a fox) don't like foxes. The boxy-foxes sold from 1979 until 1993, the sold over 100k units I believe for every year.
The fox offered what no one else was offering, a cheap muscle car. When you were on a budget, the Mustang was cheaper than the Camaro and had a more usuable back seat, insurance was lower and the aftermarket support was second to none.
Some people didn't like chevelles or camaros either.
Other than that, thanks for the compliments on the 2011 Notch.
Depends on your reference? I'm guessing for you "today" must mean current model, ergo any previous model must be crap in your eyes
Doesn't mean the cars were crap, the fox cars were reliable and the materials (like alot of cars) held up pretty well depending on how well they were taken car of and what conditions they were exposed too. They served their purpose well and even on the context of "today" can serve as adequate transportation.
Enough dwelling on that, I get a distinct impression your like a gaggle of my Chevy buddies, these guys operate in 2 modes; If its brand x stuff they junk it because it isn't GM (and not worth a crap in thier eyes), if they stumble across a brand-x guy looking to get a deal on the stuff, then its like gold to them, but not worth it in the brand-x guys mind, so they end up junking it because even the brand-x guy didn't want it.
Thank you.
Enough dwelling on that, I get a distinct impression your like a gaggle of my Chevy buddies, these guys operate in 2 modes; If its brand x stuff they junk it because it isn't GM (and not worth a crap in thier eyes), if they stumble across a brand-x guy looking to get a deal on the stuff, then its like gold to them, but not worth it in the brand-x guys mind, so they end up junking it because even the brand-x guy didn't want it.
In your's obviously......
You might want to get real.... for a change!
The Fox body was last made over 15 years ago!
Everyone would be extremely hard pressed to name ANY cars from the 80s that would sell a single model today. Yet you critisize someone for referencing back 5 years ago...... ah... yea... uh huh... right.
You don't like fox Mustangs (despite even hard core Camaro fans having an appriciation of them) regardless as to the facts, and you apparently are actively hoping General Motors crashes and burns.
It's pretty funny listening to YOU of all people, talking about haters!
The Fox body was last made over 15 years ago!
Everyone would be extremely hard pressed to name ANY cars from the 80s that would sell a single model today. Yet you critisize someone for referencing back 5 years ago...... ah... yea... uh huh... right.
You don't like fox Mustangs (despite even hard core Camaro fans having an appriciation of them) regardless as to the facts, and you apparently are actively hoping General Motors crashes and burns.
It's pretty funny listening to YOU of all people, talking about haters!
Last edited by guionM; Mar 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM.
Probably a few exceptions, like the Dodge Caravan, or something...
Hater.


