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Actually, confusing as it may be, by European standards kerbweight and unladen weight are interchangeable depending upon who you ask. At BMW, unladen weight includes the driver, luggage, and fuel. Check it out....look for the reference at the bottom that explains unladen weight according to BMW.
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle..._datasheet.pdf
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle..._datasheet.pdf
So BMW's 3700lb M3 apparently includes a mid sized driver, 7kg of stuff and a 90% full gas tank.
Welp apparently the link he referenced doesn't work. So just google "bmw unladen weight explained"
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The only number that matters is sales.
Mustangs performed no where near as well as the Camaro for years and still cleaned GM's clock in sales.
Mustangs performed no where near as well as the Camaro for years and still cleaned GM's clock in sales.
Frankly, I just don't know where Camaro goes from here.
With a 100 horsepower advantage, Brembos and IRS for Camaro, Mustang still wins most comparos. Next year, the hp gap closes and Mustang also gets Brembos. The year after, Mustang (Boss?) gets GDI, 30-ish more HP and an available IRS.
BTW, a 3450 pound base Mustang with a 315 hp V6 sounds sweet too.
We need Alpha now!
With a 100 horsepower advantage, Brembos and IRS for Camaro, Mustang still wins most comparos. Next year, the hp gap closes and Mustang also gets Brembos. The year after, Mustang (Boss?) gets GDI, 30-ish more HP and an available IRS.
BTW, a 3450 pound base Mustang with a 315 hp V6 sounds sweet too.
We need Alpha now!
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Of course, aluminum blocks are also prized for their reduced weight. A stock LS1 aluminum block barely registers at 110 pounds, while iron blocks push that figure to a more robust 175 pounds. The incentive to side with iron is increased strength, more bore size options, and a budget price. Even as thin-wall castings, all iron blocks can be bored 0.030 inch to help boost the displacement. If you want to really step up in durability, the GM Performance Parts LSX iron block is among the sturdiest, as revealed in its bare casting weight of a rugged 225 pounds or about 50 pounds heavier than a production iron block.
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...nes/index.html
http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...nes/index.html
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Most manufacturers give curb weight as a car with no driver, passengers, or cargo, and all fluids full. I don't know why BMW would do it differently.
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Eye popping fact! the shipping weight for a dressed CI 5.4 DOHC S/C engine is 837 lbs.
The wet sump version of the GT(40) block is the most likely version to be used in the '11 GT500.
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Including a driver & suitcase is a German standard, supposedly. (I'm sure it's come up here before in one of the many weight threads.)
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Hmmmm............. they forgot about one of the upcoming "fun" models. It involves the engine that they said there was no need for (because they did not use the correct version of said engine).
Now, what Shelby model is missing............... currently?? We have the power brute GT500............... so, what about the more road racing brethen??
Now, what Shelby model is missing............... currently?? We have the power brute GT500............... so, what about the more road racing brethen??
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The Mustang is going to gain weight, the question is how much?
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If the Mustang must be crash tested AND the new alloy donk has less crash resistance than the Modular donk, then there must be some structural reinforcement in the body to compensate for the lost strength from the new engine.
I could be way off beam though...
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In Australia, it would normally have been spelled "Americanise," correct?