Bob Cosby

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Hope that helps. Good luck.
Bob

muckz

Dude, you're just an uninformed ignorant troll. Take it down a few notches.

Z284ever

I really think it's smart the way Ford is packaging this product. The 30 mpg base version gives FE bragging rights, (for regular folks), but check a box and you can get the performance version.

It kind of reminds me of how GM did the 3rd gen F-cars. The "base" versions (for regular folks) with the CAFE friendly LG4/L03/peanut cammed LB9 and 2.73 gears - but check the right boxes and get the performance version.

jg95z28

I agree. I'd almost like to see GM take the Camaro LS down a notch buy replacing the DI V6 with a turbo Ecotec. It would give a nice distinction between the trim lines. LS = 4, LT = V6, SS = V8.

Z28x

Turbo might now save any money, but what about a 200HP SIDI 2.4L?

jg95z28

Whatever it takes to get the LS up to 31 mpg highway, including dumping the steel wheels for a more efficient
wheel/tire combination like they do with the XFEs. Can you imagine the aftermarket potential for a more "youth oriented" entry level Camaro?

Z28x

I would expect a SIDI 2.4L Camaro to be in the 33-34mpg range. Also cool wheels are a must if you want a youth oriented car. The current LS or LT does not have them. Wheels can make or break a car. MP3/USB/bluetooth/Sync type stuff also needs to be standard equipment.

Eric77TA

While I agree about dumping the steel wheels on Camaro, the Cobalt XFE has the same steelies and wheelcovers as the Cobalt LS and 1LT. It just has low rolling resistance tires.

I don't think that the LT wheels are that bad. I'd be fine with them for a daily driver. The 20s are very nice wheels, but my Camaro would have to be a DD and the all season 18s would actually work better here in Missouri. Otherwise, I'd have to buy a winter wheel and tire package. Which I wouldn't be totally against, but it's another budget consideration.

Everyone will probably say I'm an idiot, but I'm seriously going to be looking at 2010 Mustangs come spring. I bet there will be some killer deals - and if used Camaro LTs are still going for as much or more than new ones as they are around here right now, a '10 Mustang could end up being nearly 10 grand cheaper than a used Camaro.

Silverado C-10

I like the optional wheels the LT Camaro has... the only problem is that you "have" to step up to an RS car to get them. But I'm sure they'll show up on ebay and craigslist once enough cars get out there.

Z28x

I like the 19" wheels, but non of the 18" wheel choices do it for me. I'd rather have something like the Solstice 18" wheels.

No you don't for the 19" optional wheels. For 20"s you have to get the RS package.

Silverado C-10

I don't like the 19's they don't "look right." Still too much tire for the car.

Z284ever

Am I the only one here not bothered by steel wheels on a base car?


For a number of reasons, I don't think this Camaro will resonate loudly with a "youth oriented" market.

Marc 85Z28

Since the introduction of the Camaro in 1966, the Mustang has been sucking Chevy fumes in the performance department. Ford did catch up in the late 80s, but by the early 90s they fell way back again. And while Ford finally woke up in 2003, they caught up by default. That's the V8 optioned cars. The base engine in the Camaro has ALWAYS been ahead of the Mustang, in both power and economy.

Perhaps you're talking sales? From 1967-2002, GMs F-body outsold the Mustang.

Perhaps you're talking generational changes, or major updates. GM introduced port fuel injection in 85 to the V8. Ford, a year behind. GM beat Ford to the punch in 93 with it's 4th gen. That car was a revelation. The Ford answer in 94 a year later, was laughable at best. GM updates the platform in 98 and sets the performance world on fire. Fords 260HP weezy GT, and "320HP" Cobra a year later was an embarassment. Fast forward to the 2010MY, and again, GM is a year ahead of the Ford camp.

Marc 85Z28

I stated 1967-2002 for a reason. It's because those were the years the cars were produced together. You can't win a race you don't compete in, so I didn't include 1964-65 and 2003-09. So basically as long as GM isn't competing, Ford wins.

teal98

Camaro was in the pits those years.