2011 Dodge Challenger SRT8
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2011 Dodge Challenger SRT8
Although the "Hemi thread" touches on it, no one has done a thread on this yet, so here ya go.
Dodge Challenger SRT8 gets a new 392 ci in (6.4L) Hemi engine (yes, unlike the 5.7, this one is actually called a Hemi) that puts out 470 horsepower and 470 lbs/ft of torque.
Unlike the outgoing 6.1, the new 6.4 SRT engine uses not just cylinder deactivation, but also variable cam timing. Combined, that increases fuel economy 15-20 percent.
The SRT also benefits from redone steering and shocks and revised camber settings for quicker, lighter handling and feel.
For you numbers guys, the new SRT8 now generates .93gs, right on par with the excellent Mustang GT Track Pack (and above the .90gs of the Camaro SS).
Other changes (to all Challengers), the "Ram's Head" logo is gone, the steering wheel is new, the door handles are new, the SRT8's from air dam is now a "splitter" design, the dash has been revised both in design and with improved materials.
The current V6 Challenger is only 40 pounds heavier than a Camaro V6. Chrysler's new Pentastar V6 is at least 20 pounds lighter...and (like Mustang's V6) will have dual exhausts standard. If you wait, Chrysler also has a Direct Injection Pentastar V6 that's headed for the Challenger that is expected to boost highway fuel economy to over 30mpg and send horsepower up to at least 320. In short, at least on paper, it should be on par with the current Mustang V6 (Chrysler is also working on a twin turbo version for Fiat's Maserati).
5.7 will now have 380 horsepower and 410 lbs/ft of torque.
While on the subject of Chrysler:
* The Avenger's restyling won't be as major as the Sebring/200. Revised tailights, nose, and interior. Drivetraing will include Chrysler's new Pentastar.
* Chrysler will bring back the Hornet name on a new small car that will finally be the Neon's successor on a platform from Fiat (yes, plans include an SRT version). Don't expect it to look like the Hornet concept, though. Styling has gone in a different direction. No idea. Don't ask.
* SRT8's new 470 horse Hemi will be in a version of the Charger (SRT8 I'd imagine) by next summer. I can't name anything else it'd compete with, myself.
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Dodge Challenger SRT8 gets a new 392 ci in (6.4L) Hemi engine (yes, unlike the 5.7, this one is actually called a Hemi) that puts out 470 horsepower and 470 lbs/ft of torque.
Unlike the outgoing 6.1, the new 6.4 SRT engine uses not just cylinder deactivation, but also variable cam timing. Combined, that increases fuel economy 15-20 percent.
The SRT also benefits from redone steering and shocks and revised camber settings for quicker, lighter handling and feel.
For you numbers guys, the new SRT8 now generates .93gs, right on par with the excellent Mustang GT Track Pack (and above the .90gs of the Camaro SS).
Other changes (to all Challengers), the "Ram's Head" logo is gone, the steering wheel is new, the door handles are new, the SRT8's from air dam is now a "splitter" design, the dash has been revised both in design and with improved materials.
The current V6 Challenger is only 40 pounds heavier than a Camaro V6. Chrysler's new Pentastar V6 is at least 20 pounds lighter...and (like Mustang's V6) will have dual exhausts standard. If you wait, Chrysler also has a Direct Injection Pentastar V6 that's headed for the Challenger that is expected to boost highway fuel economy to over 30mpg and send horsepower up to at least 320. In short, at least on paper, it should be on par with the current Mustang V6 (Chrysler is also working on a twin turbo version for Fiat's Maserati).
5.7 will now have 380 horsepower and 410 lbs/ft of torque.
While on the subject of Chrysler:
* The Avenger's restyling won't be as major as the Sebring/200. Revised tailights, nose, and interior. Drivetraing will include Chrysler's new Pentastar.
* Chrysler will bring back the Hornet name on a new small car that will finally be the Neon's successor on a platform from Fiat (yes, plans include an SRT version). Don't expect it to look like the Hornet concept, though. Styling has gone in a different direction. No idea. Don't ask.
* SRT8's new 470 horse Hemi will be in a version of the Charger (SRT8 I'd imagine) by next summer. I can't name anything else it'd compete with, myself.
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A couple of things though:1) Since when is the current 5.7L not called Hemi? I've seen a zillion Chargers with "HEMI" on the side.
2) Skidpad numbers can be pretty academic, but I'd wait until head to head testing before spouting numbers. Chrysler's claim of 0.93 is all well and good, but you have to see them at the same time on the same skidpad (pref with the same driver(s)) to compare directly. Of course, no one is going to notice a 0.02 g advantage one way or the other in the real world, so it is sort of a moot point.
3) We'll see how the fuel economy numbers stack up. I don't know the Charger's Cd number, but I would guess it can't be better than the Mustang or Camaro, and I'd also guess that it has more frontal area. I'd expect the hwy number to be around what the Camaro gets if not a bit lower, at least until the DI upgrade arrives. Just a guess though; they could surprise me.
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I've read they traded off high rpm power for more down low torque. I was hoping for 500 but still hoping maybe they rated the hp at a lower rpm from peak like 470hp at 4500 rpm. Also worried about how the motor is going to sound now with MDS, old 6.1 was the standard by which every muscle car is judged by. Have they switched to aluminum for the block or is it still iron? If they get this motor right I'm waiting for it in the Charger in 2 years although as much as I depise the limitations and comprimises of the 5th gen if they can get the Z28 at a certain power level and price point it might sway me but for now SRT's get my attention more than anything else. Now give me an aluminum block 6.4 with direct injection and I'm sold!
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Although the "Hemi thread" touches on it, no one has done a thread on this yet, so here ya go.
Dodge Challenger SRT8 gets a new 392 ci in (6.4L) Hemi engine (yes, unlike the 5.7, this one is actually called a Hemi) that puts out 470 horsepower and 470 lbs/ft of torque.
Unlike the outgoing 6.1, the new 6.4 SRT engine uses not just cylinder deactivation, but also variable cam timing. Combined, that increases fuel economy 15-20 percent.
The SRT also benefits from redone steering and shocks and revised camber settings for quicker, lighter handling and feel.
For you numbers guys, the new SRT8 now generates .93gs, right on par with the excellent Mustang GT Track Pack (and above the .90gs of the Camaro SS).
Other changes (to all Challengers), the "Ram's Head" logo is gone, the steering wheel is new, the door handles are new, the SRT8's from air dam is now a "splitter" design, the dash has been revised both in design and with improved materials.
The current V6 Challenger is only 40 pounds heavier than a Camaro V6. Chrysler's new Pentastar V6 is at least 20 pounds lighter...and (like Mustang's V6) will have dual exhausts standard. If you wait, Chrysler also has a Direct Injection Pentastar V6 that's headed for the Challenger that is expected to boost highway fuel economy to over 30mpg and send horsepower up to at least 320. In short, at least on paper, it should be on par with the current Mustang V6 (Chrysler is also working on a twin turbo version for Fiat's Maserati).
5.7 will now have 380 horsepower and 410 lbs/ft of torque.
While on the subject of Chrysler:
* The Avenger's restyling won't be as major as the Sebring/200. Revised tailights, nose, and interior. Drivetraing will include Chrysler's new Pentastar.
* Chrysler will bring back the Hornet name on a new small car that will finally be the Neon's successor on a platform from Fiat (yes, plans include an SRT version). Don't expect it to look like the Hornet concept, though. Styling has gone in a different direction. No idea. Don't ask.
* SRT8's new 470 horse Hemi will be in a version of the Charger (SRT8 I'd imagine) by next summer. I can't name anything else it'd compete with, myself.
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Dodge Challenger SRT8 gets a new 392 ci in (6.4L) Hemi engine (yes, unlike the 5.7, this one is actually called a Hemi) that puts out 470 horsepower and 470 lbs/ft of torque.
Unlike the outgoing 6.1, the new 6.4 SRT engine uses not just cylinder deactivation, but also variable cam timing. Combined, that increases fuel economy 15-20 percent.
The SRT also benefits from redone steering and shocks and revised camber settings for quicker, lighter handling and feel.
For you numbers guys, the new SRT8 now generates .93gs, right on par with the excellent Mustang GT Track Pack (and above the .90gs of the Camaro SS).
Other changes (to all Challengers), the "Ram's Head" logo is gone, the steering wheel is new, the door handles are new, the SRT8's from air dam is now a "splitter" design, the dash has been revised both in design and with improved materials.
The current V6 Challenger is only 40 pounds heavier than a Camaro V6. Chrysler's new Pentastar V6 is at least 20 pounds lighter...and (like Mustang's V6) will have dual exhausts standard. If you wait, Chrysler also has a Direct Injection Pentastar V6 that's headed for the Challenger that is expected to boost highway fuel economy to over 30mpg and send horsepower up to at least 320. In short, at least on paper, it should be on par with the current Mustang V6 (Chrysler is also working on a twin turbo version for Fiat's Maserati).
5.7 will now have 380 horsepower and 410 lbs/ft of torque.
While on the subject of Chrysler:
* The Avenger's restyling won't be as major as the Sebring/200. Revised tailights, nose, and interior. Drivetraing will include Chrysler's new Pentastar.
* Chrysler will bring back the Hornet name on a new small car that will finally be the Neon's successor on a platform from Fiat (yes, plans include an SRT version). Don't expect it to look like the Hornet concept, though. Styling has gone in a different direction. No idea. Don't ask.
* SRT8's new 470 horse Hemi will be in a version of the Charger (SRT8 I'd imagine) by next summer. I can't name anything else it'd compete with, myself.
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Challenger is the car in 40 years people will have wished they bought. There just aren't that many of them compared to Camaro's and Mustangs, they certainly catch my eye when I see one where as nobody notices a Mustang and event he new Camaro isn't catching my eye as quick anymore just because I'm seeing more of them now. Again I have always loved SRT's though, I saw an older red SRT charger a few weeks ago backed into a parking space outside of a Chili's and I just stared at it for a minute or two before walking it, awesome car as well as the Chally.
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Guy, how dare you post facts that may make Chrysler look like they don't have their heads stuck up their asses?? 
You should know by now...stuff like that doesn't fly on this board! Interesting that a Challenger, which is a significantly more comfortable car inside, is only 40 lbs heavier than the Camaro. Amazing...
You should know by now...stuff like that doesn't fly on this board! Interesting that a Challenger, which is a significantly more comfortable car inside, is only 40 lbs heavier than the Camaro. Amazing...
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2011 Rams still have the same Hemi badges as before.
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It is still called Hemi http://www.dodge.com/en/2010/challen...rmance/engine/
2011 Rams still have the same Hemi badges as before.
2011 Rams still have the same Hemi badges as before.
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Guy, how dare you post facts that may make Chrysler look like they don't have their heads stuck up their asses??
You should know by now...stuff like that doesn't fly on this board! Interesting that a Challenger, which is a significantly more comfortable car inside, is only 40 lbs heavier than the Camaro. Amazing...
You should know by now...stuff like that doesn't fly on this board! Interesting that a Challenger, which is a significantly more comfortable car inside, is only 40 lbs heavier than the Camaro. Amazing...
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Huh? I thought it was more like 200-300 pounds heavier depending on how you optioned each. I haven't seen any published curb weights of a V8 Challenger under 2 tons.
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He meant the V6 versions, the V8 cars are a few undred different which Dodge could easily chop 100lb's off with an aluminum block and get rid of the iron one just like Ford did with the GT500, instant weight reduction.
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I will say it again. I love the looks and the ride of the SRT-8 Challenger. However, the prices remain too high for these cars (in my area at least). Dealers still want markups on the SRT-8 lineup. I see a lot of Challenger R/Ts, but I wouldn't bother with that car. My GTO is faster than the R/T and the current SRT-8. If the dealers are still charging a markup for the current SRT-8s, I can only imagine what they will do with the new ones coming 
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