2008 EPA ratings make Aveo look like a pig
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http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calcu...umn=1&id=23173
23/31 for an automatic. I wonder how this will impact sales. I don't think people are willing to sacrifice size for a small gain compared to a 4cyl. Malibu which is rated at 21/31. Two extra MPG city isn't enough to make me drive an Aveo over a much more comfortable and spacious mid-size car.
also here is the 2008 ratings for the Prius, they dropped a lot, yet seem very realistic based on the Prius I had for a rental http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calcu...ta&model=Prius
23/31 for an automatic. I wonder how this will impact sales. I don't think people are willing to sacrifice size for a small gain compared to a 4cyl. Malibu which is rated at 21/31. Two extra MPG city isn't enough to make me drive an Aveo over a much more comfortable and spacious mid-size car.
also here is the 2008 ratings for the Prius, they dropped a lot, yet seem very realistic based on the Prius I had for a rental http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calcu...ta&model=Prius
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The new ratings are far more accurate in regards to average economy. You can always hit numbers above or below ratings depending on the conditions in question, but that's why they're called an average. The most important thing to know is that they're a consistent platform for comparison. If you see one car rated at 20/30 and one rated at 25/35, well - you may damn well be able to get that 20/30 car to actually DO 25/35, but then you probably could have gotten that 25/35 car to do 31/41 given the same conditions.
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Lets not pick on my Aveo. I like the little guy.
Btw, I try to maintain 85+ on my 100 mile drive to work at 3am... And I get 31mpg in my auto. Swear.
Edit/add: I made the 100 miles in an hour and 12 minutes this morning. Ill still get over 30mpg this tank...
Btw, I try to maintain 85+ on my 100 mile drive to work at 3am... And I get 31mpg in my auto. Swear.
Edit/add: I made the 100 miles in an hour and 12 minutes this morning. Ill still get over 30mpg this tank...
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I think a lot of the point is being missed here. Regardless of what "real world" mileage is for Aveo, people are going to look at that EPA sticker in the window or on the internet and be thoroughly unimpressed, to the point they'll go to a Toyohondissan dealer and buy one of those products. And then they'll further the public perception that the Domestics can't compete in fuel mileage.
It's amazing to me that GM may still not realize that marketing and perception is the name of the game these days. That's what makes the Volt such an important product, and why it should be priority number 1 in R&D right now.
It's amazing to me that GM may still not realize that marketing and perception is the name of the game these days. That's what makes the Volt such an important product, and why it should be priority number 1 in R&D right now.
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I think a lot of the point is being missed here. Regardless of what "real world" mileage is for Aveo, people are going to look at that EPA sticker in the window or on the internet and be thoroughly unimpressed, to the point they'll go to a Toyohondissan dealer and buy one of those products. And then they'll further the public perception that the Domestics can't compete in fuel mileage.
It's amazing to me that GM may still not realize that marketing and perception is the name of the game these days. That's what makes the Volt such an important product, and why it should be priority number 1 in R&D right now.
It's amazing to me that GM may still not realize that marketing and perception is the name of the game these days. That's what makes the Volt such an important product, and why it should be priority number 1 in R&D right now.
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why would anyone buy an aveo? what benefits does it have over its competition? serious question here, because we just went looking for vehicles in that segment and were unimpressed.
it offers a stripper model without A/C for super cheap but thats about it, and how many of those are actually sold?
it offers a stripper model without A/C for super cheap but thats about it, and how many of those are actually sold?
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Many reviews I've read actually pick the Aveo over the Toyota Yaris. Aveo is a great car if you need to drive 50 miles each way to work.
Give it a 50mpg Diesel for say less than $1000 extra and it will be a great car for the masses.
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It gets sub-par gas mileage which will quickly make up for the difference in price between it and the much more pleasant to drive competition.
Which reviews were those? Most of the reviews I've seen (which is to say I think 2 or 3) had the Aveo in last place, Yaris in the middle, Fit at the top.
What I can't figure out is why somebody would buy the Fit when an appropriately configured civic gets better rated mileage and barely costs any more!
Many reviews I've read actually pick the Aveo over the Toyota Yaris. Aveo is a great car if you need to drive 50 miles each way to work
What I can't figure out is why somebody would buy the Fit when an appropriately configured civic gets better rated mileage and barely costs any more!
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But for what it's worth I could only find one article on their website that mentioned the Yaris and Aveo and it never ranked them or said one was better than the other - just gave kinda of a run down.
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A loaded Aveo is actually a better buy over about a 12 year period compared to a loaded Prius. I get this from the fact that a loaded Prius is approximately $27,000 where as a loaded Aveo is approximately $17,000, a difference of $10,000. If you go 15,000 miles in each vehicle at their respective new combined mpg, the Prius would cost about $1043 for gas at $3.20 per gallon where as the Aveo would cost about $1846 for gas at that same price. Thats a difference of $843. For the base models, a Prius at around $22,000 and an Aveo at around $13,000, it would take about 10 and a half years for the costs to equal out. Now obviously the Prius has more amenities and is a midsize car compared to a compact car but on a strictly fuel efficiency basis, the Aveo seems like a better buy.