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Well what I have been told from some realyable ppl that the Camaro will return. I was also told at the Philly car show this yr by respected sources that Chevvy could bring out the car at any time they wanted too, but from what they say they want to do it right. One more thing, expect it to be an anniversary return.
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Originally posted by lightning2000
I was also told at the Philly car show this yr by respected sources that Chevvy could bring out the car at any time they wanted too, but from what they say they want to do it right.
I was also told at the Philly car show this yr by respected sources that Chevvy could bring out the car at any time they wanted too, but from what they say they want to do it right.
Originally posted by JasonD
Who?
Who?
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Originally posted by gab
oooppss!!! Someone's in trouble!!!
oooppss!!! Someone's in trouble!!!
Usually, a "respected source" winds up being a salesperson at a dealership who usually know nothing and is just shooting off what they heard (or didn't hear). Or, other times is is "my uncle's friend who works in a GM plant and he would know".
I was just curious.
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Originally posted by JasonD
Not necessarily.
Usually, a "respected source" winds up being a salesperson at a dealership who usually know nothing and is just shooting off what they heard (or didn't hear). Or, other times is is "my uncle's friend who works in a GM plant and he would know".
I was just curious.
Not necessarily.
Usually, a "respected source" winds up being a salesperson at a dealership who usually know nothing and is just shooting off what they heard (or didn't hear). Or, other times is is "my uncle's friend who works in a GM plant and he would know".
I was just curious.
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Originally posted by jg95z28
True. Salesmen typically don't even know what's dropping next month, let along 2 1/2 years down the road.
True. Salesmen typically don't even know what's dropping next month, let along 2 1/2 years down the road.
Not that I deny many salespeople are better qualified to sell fish tanks...that's painfully obvious
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Originally posted by lightning2000
Well what I have been told from some realyable ppl that the Camaro will return. I was also told at the Philly car show this yr by respected sources that Chevvy could bring out the car at any time they wanted too, but from what they say they want to do it right. One more thing, expect it to be an anniversary return.
Well what I have been told from some realyable ppl that the Camaro will return. I was also told at the Philly car show this yr by respected sources that Chevvy could bring out the car at any time they wanted too, but from what they say they want to do it right. One more thing, expect it to be an anniversary return.
Plenty of reasons behind that not limited to the Ste. Therese plant and the lack of a chassis to put it on. Wouldn't believe that person.
Originally posted by CaminoLS6
Not sure that it will be wider or not sure it's right for Camaro?
Not sure that it will be wider or not sure it's right for Camaro?
The car itself won't exactly be right for Camaro, but it's structure & components will be.
The actual Zeta itself won't be a small car. The vehicles we'll get initially will be large Holden Statesman sized cars (think Park Avenue & Monte Carlo). IF there's a Camaro, I'd be expecting it to be a spinoff of Zeta, not actually Zeta itself.
And yes, I do believe the next GTO will be slightly bigger than the current one.
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Originally posted by jg95z28
True. Salesmen typically don't even know what's dropping next month, let along 2 1/2 years down the road.
True. Salesmen typically don't even know what's dropping next month, let along 2 1/2 years down the road.
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Originally posted by gtjeff
The engine bay on Kappa really isnt an issue since space frame's are easily widened or lengthened. The fiero which has almost identical dimensions to solstice has no problem accomodating the stock transverse mounted 2.8 60 degree v6 and many people have swapped in v8's(granted engine is in rear). The flexibility of the space frame is further illustrated by the fact that totally different vehicles like the old saturn s and vue were built on the same space frame! A space frame is like a blank sheet of paper-anything is possible.
The idea that kappa couldnt handle a high hp engine just isnt accurate.
The engine bay on Kappa really isnt an issue since space frame's are easily widened or lengthened. The fiero which has almost identical dimensions to solstice has no problem accomodating the stock transverse mounted 2.8 60 degree v6 and many people have swapped in v8's(granted engine is in rear). The flexibility of the space frame is further illustrated by the fact that totally different vehicles like the old saturn s and vue were built on the same space frame! A space frame is like a blank sheet of paper-anything is possible.
The idea that kappa couldnt handle a high hp engine just isnt accurate.
Just one example is turning radius and wide tires. On a rear-mid engine car (ie: Fiero), space between the front wheels to allow this isn't an issue since the engine is behind the passenger compartment. Yet in a front-mid engine car (ie: Solstice) it is an issue because the engine resides in front of the passenger compartment, and has to fit between the front wheels.
Fitting a V8 or even a V6 engine isn't an issue when width or turning diameter or tire size isn't an issue. But with Fiero it is. When Ford went to 225 size tires on the Mustang in '85, they went through alot of expense to get it to fit (and still keep a decent turning radius).
Spaceframes are engineered to whatever specifications are layed out. Any changes to it will need to undergo every single durability test the original went through.
I really like Fieros as you do, but the only way you can compare Solstice & Fiero is to say they both have 2 seats and sold in Pontiac showrooms.
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Originally posted by guionM
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the only way you can compare Solstice & Fiero is to say they both have 2 seats and sold in Pontiac showrooms. [/B]
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the only way you can compare Solstice & Fiero is to say they both have 2 seats and sold in Pontiac showrooms. [/B]
Front engine or rear the car must be wide enough to fit a v8 and those wide tires. Fiero is 68.9 inches wide with 215 tires in rear and a v8 can fit e-w. The solstice is 71.6 inches wide with 245 tires. Solstice is only 2 inches narrower then a c5 Corvette which also has 245 tires up front. I dont think 2 inches difference in width would prevent a v8.
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