http://www.chevrolet.com/aveo/2007/prelaunch.jsp

I wouldn't think twice about buying one if I was in the market for something like this. It looks pretty decent for midget sized car.

Now where's that SS version?

 

Love the car but that site is annoying.

 

the car does look much better than the previous version.

TONY

 

Yes, definitely much better looking. Maybe not as "advanced" looking as the Yaris, but still more appealing to the eye.

It would have been nice to see a sporty/aggressive hatchback (like some of the Euro hatches) to go along with the conservative sedan.

 

You guys would buy a Korean car with a chevy badge on it? Hope you've never given anyone a hard time about buying a Honda before, or anything along those lines.

Let's hope they don't have to stop production 2 months after launch, again, to figure out why the wheels are sheering off the hubs at highway speed.

 

Would you buy an Australian car badged as a Pontiac? Threxx are you like, trying to "re-educate" us or something? Every word you type now days is laden with agenda of some sort that I can't really pin point...

 

Really is alot nicer looking.

 

I'd buy Korean made over that quality-hadicapped Audi you have...

 

My statements often 'laden' with sarcasm, much as you might be use to seeing from other members; albeit with a different 'agenda' if you choose to call it that. I prefer the word 'point'.

Oh, and yeah I still think it's ironic when people who preach 'buying American' drive a GTO and yet snub their nose at Accord drivers who have US flags on the back of their cars, and such...
But at least Holden, while still Australian-made, is a GM-owned company. The Aveo, if what I've heard/read is correct, is made by a Korean owned company and then passed on to GM to sell in the US.

Can you make your comments anymore transparent?

You're welcome to do a search. I've long said Audi makes very unreliable cars. This was about the last car on my list that I wanted to get. But the lease deal I got just made it too hard to pass up, and now I've realized that since it's a lease, and only a 2 year lease at that, it's unlikely that I'm going to see any immobilizing problems during that period of time, so I'll just put up with the small quality annoyances, knowing that in the end, it's not my problem... it's Audi's problem when they get the car back from me.

 

adding a smiley here and there doesn't make your post any more "sarcastic". a sarcastic comment would have been along the lines of "Yeah! go Korean made GM cars! Lord knows we need more of those and less American made ones..." that to me is high on the "sarcsm" meter. your comment was more like .5% sarcasm contant by volume.

a Honda is still a HONDA no matter where it is made or sold. some see that as a "virtue", orthers as a "vice". I'm in the "others" camp.

That would be interesting if true. Is there something you can link here?

 

Well, to me if a car carries a Honda badge but was designed here, marketed here, built here, part sourced here... but the small fraction of profit left in the end might go back to the Japanese management (though it's very likely to just get reinvested here in the states anyway)... it's FAR more American than a American-badged vehicle that was designed in a foreign country by foreign design studios and built in a foreign country with foreign sourced parts. Regardless of "where the profits end up", you have to see that when you buy a 20,000 dollar car... where 500 bucks in profit ends up is of little consequence compared to the other 19,500 that is not profit for the car company but is income for all the other companies involved in the supply chain process.

Again, I'm well aware that on average, domestic vehicles are still significantly more beneficial to the domestic economy, but what I'm saying is to assume those terms by simply looking at the badge on a car is ignorant to say the least.

It's a rebadged Daewoo Kalos. Granted Suzuki and GM, combined, owned a minority share of Daewoo... but it's still built entirely Korea from Korean parts by Korean workers and Korean designers, and in the end the majority of the profits are still going to Korea, with some going to GM and some to Suzuki.

 

I'm well aware of the origins of the car. I just don't see where you're getting this information about Daewoo "reselling" to GM. I was under the impression that GM BOUGHT, as in outright, the Korean Automotive Daewoo operation a few years back.

I just don't see how something you OWN can be resold to you. The Aveo is no less a GM car than say the next Camaro which is rumored to be engineered by Holden or the next VUE which is also rumored to be designed and co-engineered by Deawoo. So I'd like to see these "rumors" that somehow GM Daewoo is "reselling" to GM NA and keeping the profits. Assuming the Aveo is even profitable, every Aveo GM sells makes money for GM (which includes Daewoo by default). Would it be better that the car be built here? maybe.

I'd also bet that Toyota's and Honda's profit per volume car is more like $1000 -$1500 and it is going straight to Japan where SOME of it gets reallocated back to the NA budget. After all, what's the point of doing business here AT ALL if it isn't to make more money for the folks "back home". why do all the people behind imports downplay this major point?

 

I'm sure GM bought Daewoo. But not the factories.

SO I don't know what the deal is about that.

 

He's just telling you that it's hypocrasy at its finest to buy an "American" car that's shoddily built in Korea over an American-built Honda; it's ironic how the foreign brand has American workers, and the American brand has foreign workers.



Quality Handicapped? They're solid built cars and of high quality. My dad traded his GM car that shook like a leaf past 80 mph on the highway, for the Audi which is engineered years ahead and is rock solid at maxiumum speeds. But not all cars can have "legendary F-body quality" right?
I may not have owned an F-body but I did play with Fisher price as a kid and I think they buy from the same supplier.

 

Just did a quick search for the Audi A4 and quality...
http://www.edmunds.com/new/research/audi/a4.html
http://www.automotive.com/2006/12/audi/a4/reviews/

http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pw/06a4.htm