No joking, that was an LS1 Camaro? I woulda liked to see them really mod it like the TA's.

 

A lot of people somehow got the impression the woodward cars were the 5th gen or the '03 model....I think its just misinformation from the uniformed that gets passed around.

These two cars were built as show cars only and don't hint at anything. Actually neither one of them are 2002s. The white Firebird is actually a '98 according to Settlemire and the Camaro was a track car for the Justin Bell Driving School that they turned back in to GM.

http://www.mtfba.org/G7/IM000467.JPG

http://www.mtfba.org/G7/IM000466.JPG

 

Thanks for the info, I was under the impression they were both last of the 2002's but GM was just calling them 2003 to make it more interesting.

Another interesting fact: The 572 ZL1 Camaro john Moss built is actually a 1993 , it used to be his daily driver.
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/car...amarozl1_2.jpg

 

The 572 Camaro was neat, but unfortunantly, if I remember, the Boss Mustang Ford made for a comparo was faster, at least in the straight line..

Both were breaking parts on the roadcourse test though.. I think the Mustang had valvetrain problems while the Camaro destroyed the rear..

Later, they put a LS1 frontend on the 572 Camaro..

 

any more pictures of the 2003 concept firebird.

 

We went over this in another thread with you already today:
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...hreadid=230482

It's a 2002.

There was no 2003 concept, no 2003 f-body, no 2003 anything related to the f-body.

 

any more pictures of this car:
http://camaroplace.com/camaro/pages/2003%20Firebird.htm

 

Chris is right.....the Trans Am was a '98 Development car at the Milford Proving Grounds...the SS was a car that we had loaned to Justin Bell Driving School...both cars were done (in record time) for the Woodward Dream cruise......

We did not build any 2003 Camaros....the last 4th gen (2002 model) off the line was August 27, 2002......last 'saleable' Camaro was a Red Z28 coupe......went to Mark Gembenski......for $72,500 at Kruse Auction over labor day, 2002........the 'next to last' car off the line was a Red Trans Am Convert......the last car off the line was a Camaro --- a Red Z28 Convertible (last 6 of VIN is 172469) and it resides in the GM Historic Collection...neither of the last two cars are "saleable" as they received a special "non saleable" code on the build sheet and thus, the window labels do not list the options...they're both, as I recall 6-speeds.

The UAW/Sunoco Camaro body panels MAY show up on a group of special Camaros done by a nationally known Chevy Dealer......

And...the Ste. Therese Plant is still standing....but may be demolished.......

 

I distinctly remember seeing a 2003 Camaro picture/ photochop/ or concept, in one of the Big Magazines in 2002...I only wish I could remember which one...
I know it wasn't a GM effort, but an attemp at a plausable evolutionary "next step"...I remember I didn't care much for it either, too smoothed and plain..

 

I beleive hes thinking of the ZL1 Reissues which are found here http://www.batterytoppers.com/gallery/2002_zl1.html They had some here in NC at Hendrick. They wanted 80 grand each for them but they were very nice. Still not worth it but they said the ones from the 60's in mint condition are worth 600,000.

 

http://www.davidyeatts.com/images/F-...Camaro_Z28.jpg

Now thats a car I would love to have.

 

Thats what I said too. As I recall, the cars were built at St Therese in the middle of the model year, but by the time they were ZL-1ized, it was later in 2002, so maybe someone misinterpreted it as a 2003 model.

 

Could comeone confirm if the last Camaro IS at the National Corvette Museum at Bowling Green - I haven't been at that museum in a few years and that would be a great excuse for a drive!

Since the "axe" was dropped a few years before production terminated, one can be assured that there was little to no product development, aside from what was required by the Feds (the double hatch-latch and child seat anchors), and while sketches may have been made, I doubt any clays or models were made....

Red Planet, any insights on that?

 

There are NO 2003 Camaro's. I know they still had 2002 leftovers late 2003. Perhaps that's what you have in mind.

 

Has a date been set Red? Anyone see any press releases about this? It would be very good news.