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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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Re: 05 GT, M5 Dyno.

For what its worth, Car & Driver TV dynoed a '99 Z28 during a Z28 vs. Mustang GT test back in '99. I have it on tape and the Z28 dynoed 312 rwhp. They also dynoed the Mustang but I don't recall off hand what it dynoed. I am not sure what kind of dyno they use on there show. I'll have to get the tape out and look closer when they show the screens.
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dan05gtowner
Um, first off..... did you miss the part about Steeda dynoed the 05 at 275rwhp and 295rwtq on a dynojet?? (Its a fact)

Secondly, I don't get you're point about the MT time. They achieved 13.6sec (which is slightly <sarcasm> below 14 seconds) ....another FACT.

Third, since when do you baby it out of the hole when doing a 1/4 mile run?
First of all, you can take into consideration the numbers posted by Steeda but I wouldn't take them as fact. They are not really an independant, you have no idea what was done to it, however small, and it may not even be an off-the-line production car. The point is, there are too many questions. It may turn out that this is a decent number but not enough data has been logged to assume anything.

Lastly, you baby it out of the hole when you actually have a lot of power and street tires.
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dan05gtowner
That weight is incorrect.

The 2005 Mustang GT weighs 3450lbs. Confirmed in the chief engineers presentation I attended. Not much more than a Mach 1.
so the dyno sheet is a typo?
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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This link shows a 3600lb. '99 SS.
That's not what the car weighs.
The dyno sheet for the '05 does not accurately represent the weight of the car.
It is within 50lbs. of the current car, which is lighter than a medium-heavily optioned F-body.
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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Magnum Force
so the dyno sheet is a typo?
I don't know, but the official number from Ford is 3450lbs.
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
First of all, you can take into consideration the numbers posted by Steeda but I wouldn't take them as fact. They are not really an independant, you have no idea what was done to it, however small, and it may not even be an off-the-line production car. The point is, there are too many questions. It may turn out that this is a decent number but not enough data has been logged to assume anything.

Lastly, you baby it out of the hole when you actually have a lot of power and street tires.
Steeda dyno'ed a stock GT. The guy who did the dyno confirmed that.

Second, what I meant was that Schismblade saying that MT only got 13.6sec with an "aggressive start" doesn't make sense. How else do you expect to get a good time without an aggressive start

Should we be comparing a non-aggressive times? Like taking off from idle?
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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Re: 05 GT, M5 Dyno.

From Ford's perspective (along with many others who will buy this car), the numbers are just fine. The car will hold it's own on the street and will sell in droves.

Personally, I can't stand the new design. However, you can't deny that it's a decent car for the money...

BTW...my WS6 weighed in at 3550 on the nose with 1/4 tank of gas and me in it. I don't understand why ppl think that F-bodies are so heavy. Maybe mine is an exception
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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Wow... all this bashing... those numbers sound respectable to me.

How do they compare with the 2005 Camaro dyno numbers? Anyone seen those yet?
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Re: 05 GT, M5 Dyno.

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How do they compare with the 2005 Camaro dyno numbers? Anyone seen those yet?
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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Re: 05 GT, M5 Dyno.

Originally Posted by GoghUA
Wow... all this bashing... those numbers sound respectable to me.

How do they compare with the 2005 Camaro dyno numbers? Anyone seen those yet?
Its sad...but you know whats worse? When 3 years later, Ford with 3v heads, VVT, and all this "high tech" crap in there engine, still cant make numbers the Camaro and Firebird were doing back in 02....

Now thats sad. Anyone have 05 GTO numbers?
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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Re: 05 GT, M5 Dyno.

Originally Posted by GoghUA
Wow... all this bashing... those numbers sound respectable to me.

How do they compare with the 2005 Camaro dyno numbers? Anyone seen those yet?
i understand and agree your point, but those "2005 Camaro" jokes have been passe for more than two years on this board
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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Re: 05 GT, M5 Dyno.

Originally Posted by dan05gtowner
That weight is incorrect.

The 2005 Mustang GT weighs 3450lbs. Confirmed in the chief engineers presentation I attended. Not much more than a Mach 1.

This makes a little more sense. Otherwise I wouldn't know what to think - a 300 HP Mustang weighing in at 3550 lbs with an automatic trasmission pulling off 13.6 ???? I mean, gearing is gearing, but to pull of such times almost defies laws of drag racing

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Old Oct 3, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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Re: 05 GT, M5 Dyno.

Originally Posted by GoghUA
Wow... all this bashing... those numbers sound respectable to me.

How do they compare with the 2005 Camaro dyno numbers? Anyone seen those yet?
Puhleez.... Will we ever stop seeing these comments?
Old Oct 3, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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Re: 05 GT, M5 Dyno.

Originally Posted by Big Als Z
Its sad...but you know whats worse? When 3 years later, Ford with 3v heads, VVT, and all this "high tech" crap in there engine, still cant make numbers the Camaro and Firebird were doing back in 02....

Now thats sad. Anyone have 05 GTO numbers?
goes to show you how dyno numbers and track times really mean jack sh*t to most car buyers. i mean look at it, 20k fbodies total in 02? that REALLY looks like people cared that they ran good or dynoed high...

frankly, i can respect those numbers considering they came from a mustang dyno. still makes more than my turd gen did on a dynojet and for the time being will run faster than i will too. i guess some people on this site lack the tact to comprehend that.
Old Oct 4, 2004 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 87camracer
goes to show you how dyno numbers and track times really mean jack sh*t to most car buyers. i mean look at it, 20k fbodies total in 02? that REALLY looks like people cared that they ran good or dynoed high...

frankly, i can respect those numbers considering they came from a mustang dyno. still makes more than my turd gen did on a dynojet and for the time being will run faster than i will too. i guess some people on this site lack the tact to comprehend that.
20k cars because gm wanted to shut down the plant because it was getting old.. period.. the camaro was GOING to be killed one way or another... but yeah... lets compare it to an 05 GTO!!! 100HP Difference!!!!oopss.. IRS and i'm betting low 13s 1/4mile @ 10mph EASILY more. so there you have the difference...

Sorry but its not fair to compare an 05 car with a 95 car.. there are 10 years difference... the reality.. both new.. i choose the LT1 over that crappy 4.6



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