Which video?
Oh...the one with the nearly unidentifiable '05, filmed by an unknown source, in which the scoreboard was never shown and the time was narrated by the cameraman.

So yes, that's pretty much a joke.
An instrumented test by a major publication isn't legit, but a grainy video from an unknown track is. That's classic.
Conversely, if the GT ran a 14.6, you'd be on here defending the validity of Motor Trend's testing procedures.
S.

 

LOL... the listed weight on edmunds is 3300 for the 6 cyl coupe, so the gt may actually weigh more than a Z28.. the increase in power may be offset by the increase in weight. Ford's reasoning on this is pretty practical as far as I can tell. One reason the f-body is gone is a lack of styling compared to other vehicles in the same market, and Ford is definitely trying to keep out of that dead spot with all the imports competing for sporty niches now as well. So the whole retro thing should take care of that nicely. As far as performance, all Ford has to do is make sure it makes all the right Ford V-8 sounds, which they have done well on in the past, this one should be no exception. As long as it can beat the previous model in acceleration from a general standpoint, then no one will be complaining there. Not to mention, I don't think Ford is really looking for knock em dead times from their gt anyway when the cobra is the one raising everyone's eyebrows. And why is everyone argueing about a car that is still to come out anyway? I think I can at least wait till I see one before I bash Ford's newest creation.

 

I bet the video was an elaborate plan to lower the expectations of future mustang owners.

I have told you what I think the manual GT will run, let me hear your prediction.

 

It is out

 

I've already stated my prediction and opinion.
With ~270-280rwhp and a 5-speed, I think the softly sprung '05 GT's will run fairly consistently in the mid-13's. I would be confident of 13.4-13.5's at around 105mph, with some cars running a bit quicker, and some a bit slower. I'm not sure anybody will hit a 12 with a stock one, but I think people will get close. The car has an aluminum block and heads, and with more even weight distribution, I'd expect the car to get out pretty well.
But of course "the video" showed (or didn't show) an '05 GT running 14.2@96mph (or at least that's what the camera man stated), so I'm probably wrong.
S.

 

I love how 13.6 is impressive when the GTO ran nearly the same time with more trap speed, and was called slow.
Now if this Mustang has all this power, wouldnt it run a lot faster(meaning MPH) through the traps? Almost identical to the GTO, who has a weight disadvantage as well as a minor power advantage?
SO if this GT is pushing 330hp, yet coming in almost 300-400lbs less then the GTO, wouldnt the GT be going 13.4-13.6@ over 100mph? Something doesnt add up.

 

330hp may be a bit much. I suspect actual output to be closer to 315-320hp. From the looks of it, the auto has already hit 13.6's. The problem with the traps on the auto's is said to arise from the gearing and it having to shift into 4th before crossing the finish line or something. Apparantly, the first 3 gears are pretty aggressive, and the last 2 overdrive gears pretty mild/tall and economical (hence them being overdrive gears). That would probably explain why it is so explosive off the line, yet slow down once it hits 4th gear. Manual versions should be faster than 100+ i would think.

I think people had too high expectations for the GTO. It seemed like people where expecting it to be just as fast if not faster than the Ls1 f-bods.

 

That was a 6-speed GTO, the GT was an automatic.
And as we all know, A4 GTO's struggle to get into the 13's. A 350hp, LS1 GTO that can't get into the 13's is, IMO...not impressive.
Well...it ran 100mph on 267rwhp. That sounds decent to me.
One issue is the gear ratios of the 5-speed automatic. They're closely spaced in 1st, 2nd and 3rd and drop off in 4th.
Uhh...the GT tested in Motor Trend ran 13.6@100mph (okay...99.9mph). And the 330hp figure is probably a touch optimistic.
There will be lots of excuses and much whining will occur if a 5-speed car runs what I predict it will.
S.

 

Maybe if you talk about the video a little more, then it will become less relevent. It seems that a GT running 14.2 @ 96.xx doesn't seem that far off now does it? Just because you don't like the outcome doesn't mean that the time is not possible and to dismiss it like it was a fake. No of course it doesn't mean that it is the definitive "new" mustang time but it is still there. You have made your prediction and I have made mine so we will see.

 

Either way, this aint like it hasnt been done before. Good for the Mustang I guess...but its not big deal.
Where is Evan Smith when you need him?

 

The question of the A5 intrigued me a bit, so I did some searching. I found the following data. I cannot personally vouch for its credibility, but the numbers seem reasonable, and I have more than one source listed:

5R55S 5 Speed Automatic Transmission

1st - 3.22
2nd - 2.29
3rd - 1.54
4th - 1.00
5th - 0.71
Final drive - 3.31

Come to your own conclusions on what this means.

Sources:
http://www.samsgarage.com/ford_mustang_2005_specs.htm
http://www.mustangworks.com/articles...ang/specs.html

 

Comparison to the previous 4R70W 4 speed.

1st - 2.84
2nd - 1.55
3rd - 1.00
4th - 0.70

Final drive: 3.27

 

Which car?

The one delayed until January 2005???

I am actually inclined to believe these numbers as they agree with some other reports I have seen, but am very interested as to what car they were testing. Pre-production or a production car with the "defective" heads. Who knows what they will really do. Looks like we woulnt know till around Jan-Fed when we start seeing the actual production cars at the tracks and in the Mags.

I have developed a respect for PaperTarget, even ProudPony, and of course Bob Cosby, but you crack me up Snorman. You are so stuborn like many of the camaro guys here, it always makes for some good reading

 

ROTFLMAO!
Good thing for me that I don't give a sh*t about earning your respect!
If you can't swallow facts, don't read my posts.

BTW...nice job posting that "delayed until January 2005" passage in every Mustang thread you can find.
You'll look pretty stupid if it's a rumor started by an inept car dealer!

S.

 

BTW...I hope you don't claim that the car on the website in your profile ran 10.53@131mph.

S.