05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
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05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
From a guy that works for Magnaflow...post on stangnet:
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This does add to the mounting evidence that the new 05 is very quick.
For anyone doubting this, lets say the Mach 1 and Cobra weren't behind by a 1.5 car length but dead even (correcting any "supposed" large driver error on their part), the 05 will launch quicker from the line so even in the most conservative case, the 05 would still end up ahead. Or at least that's my logic.
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This does add to the mounting evidence that the new 05 is very quick.
For anyone doubting this, lets say the Mach 1 and Cobra weren't behind by a 1.5 car length but dead even (correcting any "supposed" large driver error on their part), the 05 will launch quicker from the line so even in the most conservative case, the 05 would still end up ahead. Or at least that's my logic.
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Re: 05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
[QUOTE=dan05gtowner]From a guy that works for Magnaflow...post on stangnet:
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This does add to the mounting evidence that the new 05 is very quick.
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Unless you forget about 14.2 @96 and 13.xx at 99, yes both autos but not that impressive.
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This does add to the mounting evidence that the new 05 is very quick.
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Unless you forget about 14.2 @96 and 13.xx at 99, yes both autos but not that impressive.
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Re: 05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
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In this case, all cars were manuals. So I'm not following?
Second, I still don't get the 99mph trap arguement. Who cares what it traps if the time is good?
Yes, traps are a good indicator of whether a car has more potential (ie. if your time is slow but your trap is high, a better driver could achieve better times), however if an auto can trap 99mph and do the quarter in 13.6s, that's amazing. Its obviously doing well because of its ability to hookup off the line. In the end, its your time that's most important.
13.6 seconds in the quarter by an auto is quite impressive no matter how you look at it.
Originally Posted by dan05gtowner
From a guy that works for Magnaflow...post on stangnet:
Stangnet Post
This does add to the mounting evidence that the new 05 is very quick.
QUOTE]
Unless you forget about 14.2 @96 and 13.xx at 99, yes both autos but not that impressive.
Stangnet Post
This does add to the mounting evidence that the new 05 is very quick.
QUOTE]
Unless you forget about 14.2 @96 and 13.xx at 99, yes both autos but not that impressive.
In this case, all cars were manuals. So I'm not following? Second, I still don't get the 99mph trap arguement. Who cares what it traps if the time is good?
Yes, traps are a good indicator of whether a car has more potential (ie. if your time is slow but your trap is high, a better driver could achieve better times), however if an auto can trap 99mph and do the quarter in 13.6s, that's amazing. Its obviously doing well because of its ability to hookup off the line. In the end, its your time that's most important.
13.6 seconds in the quarter by an auto is quite impressive no matter how you look at it.
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Re: 05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
Originally Posted by dan05gtowner
13.6 seconds in the quarter by an auto is quite impressive no matter how you look at it.
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Re: 05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Unless you forget about 14.2 @96 and 13.xx at 99, yes both autos but not that impressive.
I know that ultra-reliable footage has become the hallmark of '05 GT performance for some of you.
I think some people are going to be tripping over their own excuses in the coming months, just as they were when the '03 Cobras hit the street.
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Re: 05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
Originally Posted by Snorman
Just curious, is that the 14.2 from the grainy video where the scoreboard was not shown (the narrator vocalized the time) and the details of the car were not known.
I know that ultra-reliable footage has become the hallmark of '05 GT performance for some of you.
I think some people are going to be tripping over their own excuses in the coming months, just as they were when the '03 Cobras hit the street.
S.
I know that ultra-reliable footage has become the hallmark of '05 GT performance for some of you.
I think some people are going to be tripping over their own excuses in the coming months, just as they were when the '03 Cobras hit the street.
S.
As for the last part of your statement, I doubt it. I will predict that the new GT will run about 102-103 in the quarter.
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Uhh...wasn't the magazine "article" actually an instrumented test, while the video was impromptu footage of a car that was never positively identified with a time that wasn't even shown by the camera? That sounds like the hearsay you've been clutching to for support.
And yes...when the 5-speed GT's start being tested, you'll likely be one of those tripping over excuses for the results. "It was a ringer", "it has gears", "it was on a sticky tire", "it was pre-production"...blah, blah, blah.
FYI...the 5-speed cars have more gear (3.55's vs. 3.31's) and less parasitic loss than the A5 cars. I'll guess they'll run faster than 102mph.
But keep clutching to that 99.9mph trap speed, it might save ya'.
S.
And yes...when the 5-speed GT's start being tested, you'll likely be one of those tripping over excuses for the results. "It was a ringer", "it has gears", "it was on a sticky tire", "it was pre-production"...blah, blah, blah.
FYI...the 5-speed cars have more gear (3.55's vs. 3.31's) and less parasitic loss than the A5 cars. I'll guess they'll run faster than 102mph.
But keep clutching to that 99.9mph trap speed, it might save ya'.
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Re: 05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
Originally Posted by Snorman
Uhh...wasn't the magazine "article" actually an instrumented test, while the video was impromptu footage of a car that was never positively identified with a time that wasn't even shown by the camera? That sounds like the hearsay you've been clutching to for support.
And yes...when the 5-speed GT's start being tested, you'll likely be one of those tripping over excuses for the results. "It was a ringer", "it has gears", "it was on a sticky tire", "it was pre-production"...blah, blah, blah.
FYI...the 5-speed cars have more gear (3.55's vs. 3.31's) and less parasitic loss than the A5 cars. I'll guess they'll run faster than 102mph.
But keep clutching to that 99.9mph trap speed, it might save ya'.
S.
And yes...when the 5-speed GT's start being tested, you'll likely be one of those tripping over excuses for the results. "It was a ringer", "it has gears", "it was on a sticky tire", "it was pre-production"...blah, blah, blah.
FYI...the 5-speed cars have more gear (3.55's vs. 3.31's) and less parasitic loss than the A5 cars. I'll guess they'll run faster than 102mph.
But keep clutching to that 99.9mph trap speed, it might save ya'.
S.
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Re: 05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
ahem
a touch under 326 crank horsepower at 18 percent loss, which is more reasonable if this was an automatic, and quite consistent with claims of 276ish rwhp from the manuals (324.7 crank at 15 percent).
a touch under 326 crank horsepower at 18 percent loss, which is more reasonable if this was an automatic, and quite consistent with claims of 276ish rwhp from the manuals (324.7 crank at 15 percent).
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Re: 05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
Originally Posted by SNEAKY NEIL
Where is the proof in what the 5speed car will run? huh? There is none. Nor is there about dyno numbers, ect. which has been thrown around liberally by your Mustang brothers. So, that is the hearsay that i am referring to smarty. And I stick by what I predict and I doubt I will eat my words.
And yes...there have been several sources of dyno numbers. Here is one link, there are others, but you'd simply dismiss them.
275rwhp is about 40-50rwhp more than a '99-'04 5-speed GT. The '05 weighs within 50lbs. of the current car.
I particularly liked this...
Unless you forget about 14.2 @96 and 13.xx at 99, yes both autos but not that impressive.
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Re: 05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
Originally Posted by toneloc12345
so there won't be any more cobra's or mach 1's? just gt's?
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Re: 05 GT beats both Mach 1 and 01 Cobra From a Roll
Originally Posted by Snorman
Even when they're tested, there will be excuses, and much whining will ensue.
And yes...there have been several sources of dyno numbers. Here is one link, there are others, but you'd simply dismiss them.
275rwhp is about 40-50rwhp more than a '99-'04 5-speed GT. The '05 weighs within 50lbs. of the current car.
I particularly liked this...
[/b]Where you cleverly omitted the ".6". Here...I'll do it for you. 13.6@99.9mph. Get used to seeing those mid-13 second numbers, and start warming up to low-13 claims (and maybe even quicker).
S.
And yes...there have been several sources of dyno numbers. Here is one link, there are others, but you'd simply dismiss them.
275rwhp is about 40-50rwhp more than a '99-'04 5-speed GT. The '05 weighs within 50lbs. of the current car.
I particularly liked this...
[/b]Where you cleverly omitted the ".6". Here...I'll do it for you. 13.6@99.9mph. Get used to seeing those mid-13 second numbers, and start warming up to low-13 claims (and maybe even quicker).
S.
I dissmiss them like you dismiss the video.
I am not going to believe anything until there is repeated data by many different sources that can form some sort of consensus. By the way, 275 is nothing to brag about.