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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 12:43 AM
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'03 Cobra races '05 Mustang GT.

From a post on BON......

Tonight coming home from work on Telegraph in Dearborn I had the chance to race a new Z06 and 05 mustang GT. I raced the z06 twice from a roll. Both times I had an early lead that quickly ended once we shifted to third. By the time we shut down he was a car length on me and it did not look like it would have lessened. We shifted at roughly the same time. I started in second from around 25-30. Cocky guy too...wish I had more than just exhaust on my 03 cobra. Five minutes later I saw a red mustang GT. Looks good. My girlfriend does not like the looks however and absolutely hates the front lights. We started from a roll at around 25mph and it stayed pretty even right off the bat. As I shifted to third, I began to walk him but we both had to shut down. The streets were busy and the cops were out. Cool guy though and very lucky to be driving that car for the weekend. Every mustang owner was chasing him down. It is a pretty fast car, and it really did hang with me initially from a roll.
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
From a post on BON......
If true, then it would be Mach1 fast which is what most reasonable people have been saying. One video proves nothing.
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 03:06 AM
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A video proves a lot more than that post does. Where the hell do you just see '05 Mustang GT's prancing around? Much less street racing? They haven't even hit dealer lots yet. Just sounds like a desperation attempt by a huge Mustang fan to give some more credit to the new generations. If this is true, and if it did hang with him right off the roll, theres no way its stock.
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Meccadeth
A video proves a lot more than that post does. Where the hell do you just see '05 Mustang GT's prancing around? Much less street racing? They haven't even hit dealer lots yet. Just sounds like a desperation attempt by a huge Mustang fan to give some more credit to the new generations. If this is true, and if it did hang with him right off the roll, theres no way its stock.
First, video doesn't prove jack unless you know the circumstances, which we don't. Second, 05's are all over the place. Florida, California and especially Michigan. They're out and about, visit a Mustang forum, you'll see plenty of pics of them out and about. Third, desperation is claiming a video with no credibility as factual information. Mach1's with hang with Cobras from a start without a problem. 05's are supposed to be around Mach1 fast. We'll see soon.
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 03:39 AM
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His girlfriend has the right idea. I could care if this sucker runs 9's, it is still butt-fugly. Running 14.2 just adds to the fun.
I like how when a Ford guy posts about his encounter with an 05 Mustang GT, its truth, but when someone brings a video tape of a GT running 14.2, its BS and should not be belived! FORD CAN NEVER FAIL!!
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 05:20 AM
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First, video doesn't prove jack unless you know the circumstances, which we don't. Second, 05's are all over the place. Florida, California and especially Michigan. They're out and about, visit a Mustang forum, you'll see plenty of pics of them out and about. Third, desperation is claiming a video with no credibility as factual information. Mach1's with hang with Cobras from a start without a problem. 05's are supposed to be around Mach1 fast. We'll see soon.
So his post is more credible than a video? Riiiiight
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Als Z
His girlfriend has the right idea. I could care if this sucker runs 9's, it is still butt-fugly. Running 14.2 just adds to the fun.
I like how when a Ford guy posts about his encounter with an 05 Mustang GT, its truth, but when someone brings a video tape of a GT running 14.2, its BS and should not be belived! FORD CAN NEVER FAIL!!
I've got a video tape of a '94 Z28 running a 15.2 if you want it.
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Meccadeth
Much less street racing?
Telegraph Road? That road nearly has the same reputation as Gratiot around here. Plenty of street racing takes place there. However, like you, id believe the video before Id believe this guy.
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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I see a couple of 05 mustangs a week around here, c6 vettes too. I raced an 05 down woodward last week and it didn't quite seem mach 1 quick, but i think it was a little faster than an 04 gt. I'm pretty sure just about all of us could make it run a little better then a 14.20. I can't see it hanging with a new cobra though. I walked away from the 05 from a roll and a light.
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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Some guys are just more vocal about it than others but I see their point...yeah if you don't believe a video then what makes a post from a rather anonymous internet street racer any more credible?

Here's an idea, let them come to showrooms, let people start buying them and then let's see some consistant times!
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
Here's an idea, let them come to showrooms, let people start buying them and then let's see some consistant times!
True. Only then will the speculations and BS be seperated from the facts.
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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His girlfriend has the right idea. I could care if this sucker runs 9's, it is still butt-fugly. Running 14.2 just adds to the fun.
I like how when a Ford guy posts about his encounter with an 05 Mustang GT, its truth, but when someone brings a video tape of a GT running 14.2, its BS and should not be belived! FORD CAN NEVER FAIL!!
Yeah, Al...it's just a post on the internet. For all we know, it could be completely fabricated BS,

But....if this guy said that he completely obliterated the '05, and it was such a piece of crap, that it started shedding body panels, and burned to the ground.........THEN you'd be swearing to everyone that this was gospel truth.

See what I'm talking about?
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Meccadeth
A video proves a lot more than that post does.
According to the topgear vid, a new c6 isn't even as fast as an NSX in a drag race. We all know that's BS, but a simple vid doesn't prove much either. Which would you be inclined to believe (assuming there were no other tests of c6), the topgear drag race or some random guy in a c5 telling us how he lost to a c6 by 3 cars??? True or not, something’s make a heck of a lot more sense than others.

Originally Posted by Meccadeth
If this is true, and if it did hang with him right off the roll, theres no way its stock.
Look at the current mustang GT''s. They'll actually fair well against ls-1's in the first two gears (look how close 0-60mph times are), but once third comes, they get slaughtered.

As for the roll thing, it has already been mentioned. A well driven 5spd Mach 1 will do fine in initially hanging well with the Cobra. Keyword being “initially” because the gap gets larger and larger as the speeds increase.
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Yeah, Al...it's just a post on the internet. For all we know, it could be completely fabricated BS,

But....if this guy said that he completely obliterated the '05, and it was such a piece of crap, that it started shedding body panels, and burned to the ground.........THEN you'd be swearing to everyone that this was gospel truth.

See what I'm talking about?

So true . I think both sides are guilty of this. One is more inclined to believe the slower time, while the other is more inclined to believe the faster time.
Old Aug 8, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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Actual road tests should be showing up in car mags starting next month. I'll wait for their numbers before passing judgment, even though the current word is they are about Mach 1 & LS1 quick.



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