for THAT price, I'd get a Ford GT for each day of the week, and be 7X as happy

 

Guion, before you blast hi-po engines for only lasting 2 months under street conditions, poke around for information on some of the turbo LS1s, including Mike Brown and his 9 second street-driven stock bottom end TA.

Joe hit it on the head
So is the car impressive? Absolutely! Does our lack of drooling excitement mean we need to readjust ourselves? Not when the car costs a million bucks, imo.

 

Agreed with Joe...

 

I agree wholeheartedly that the price of the ME four twelve is absolutlely ridiculous. Although I don't expect it to cost a million, it WILL be over $500,000. At that price, I don't care how quick a car is, nothing that has 4 wheels is worth THAT much!!!!!

BUT... only B4C made a reference to the car's price in his post. Everyone else acted like that the car was supposed to have all 3 space shuttle engines strapped to the roof before it would be impressive, which I found pretty amazing considering a 2.9 second 0-60 blast garnered essentially shrugs and the inevitable "I can modify a (insert car's name here) and blow it away!" comment.

Is a million (or even $300,000) an insane amount of money to pay for a car? H*LL yea it is! Ford could probally make the GT match the ME four twelve's performance for a final price tag under $200,000, making the Chrysler seem more than just overpriced.

But 2.9 seconds to 60 in any street car is flat out blisteringly quick!

 

I'm not impressed by top fuel dragsters either.

 

Agreed 100%. Anyone not impressed by its numbers needs a map to reality.

 

that things badass

 

Find me a $500,000 McLaren F1, please.

The Lingenfelter Corvette (427 TT) did 0-60 in 1.97 and the quarter in 9.2 @ 150, I believe. All for $150,000. Warrenty? Yes.

With such performance, who would even think about buying a Ford GT? Or two Vipers? Or a Ferrari short of an Enzo/F-50? Or almost any Porsche? Oh yea, people that want to enjoy an exotic car because, to be blunt, they're fuggin' rich and could care less if they get beat by the primered IROC.

Every car I just named out-performs the Lamborghini Gallardo, but you'd be damned to see me pass up a Gallardo for a chance at any of the others.

Performance isn't everything.

 

You are right Guion , cars have got incredibly fast grossly surpasing supercar levels in cars that average people own . Its getting quite difficult for a supercar to really be something to freak out over . I guess if exotic end of the automotive world is what floats your boat , then this car is definately causing some excitement . Bash me if ya want , but I would rather see MTI 7.0 c5 blow it carbon fiber doors off , then roadtrip from cali to new york , full streetability , reliabilty , warranty and all . And in my honest opinion , the vette would be the more impressive car ...jmo What great times for car people

Plus ...my trans am will go 0-60 in under 3 sec. so there

 

Oh, I know. I wasn't saying that I would take a 10 second modified Camaro over that car. I was just saying that the feat of achieving those numbers isn't really that outstanding when you consider the cost. It was in response to guionM's post about everyone needing a reality check if we aren't impressed by a 2.9 second 0-60. Of course that is impressive, but it doesn't blow me away that a car can achieve such astounding numbers when someone else could build a car for the strip that would embarrass the ME412, all for maybe 20 grand. Would I take the $20k strip car over a hyper exotic if given the keys to either one? Of course not. I'm just saying that 2.9 seconds to 60 and a 10 second 1/4 mile, while certainly blazing fast, are not really rare. They are just rare in cars that you can buy from a dealership. But a million dollar car isn't exactly a car most people could just go buy at a dealership...

 

That alone sums it up.

The performance itself of something that quick from an automaker is incredible, and by no means a yawn.

The price is something there is no way on earth I'm defending.

1. In the end all you have is a $150,000 car that looks alot like everyone else's $45,000 one.

2. Lingenfelter is an aftermarket tuner. I'm talking from-the-factory performance.

3. Who would think of buying a Ford GT? Considering GTs are sold out at the moment, seems there are plenty. Besides, who would by a $150,000 Corvette to see yourself coming & going when the Ford GT is rare, purpose built (not a modified car), and no doubt is going to go up in value... way up. Oh, and it's blazingly quick as well.

4. If you are comparing a primered IROC to an exotic car, you need your head examined.

5. You say performance isn't everything, yet your entire post is based on the premise that performance IS everything.

You are saying a Lingenfelter Corvette is more desireable than a Ford GT, Dodge Viper, a Ferrari, a Porsche, and even a Lamborghini. Then you even post that the only reason people buy these cars is that they are rich & don't care about being beat by a primered IROC.


By the way, the Lingenfelter's warranty is just 2 years or 24,000 miles. The price ($165,000) is for their work. You still have to provide the $53,000 Corvette, rounding out your cost at $218,000. For a CORVETTE!!

Gotta tell you, if I'm going to spend $200K+ for a car (fat chance that it is), it certainly isn't going to be for a modified Corvette. Judging by what's actually selling, I'd say that's probally the going sentiment in the marketplace.

 

Guion, re-read his post, he's on your side