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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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Thanks Steve! Sounds like it'd work for me. I was afraid the brackets and sliders would be a project to make fit.

Here's a silly question, the seat being a touch to the left, you dont
find yourself off center with the steering wheel, right?

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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 03:35 PM
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no, it's not even noticeable... it's a great seat you'll like it.

My best advice is to go to a local speed shop and sit in a couple seats to see how it fits you.. that's how I did it. I found a shop that had the two seats I was deciding on: Momo and Recaro and I got to try them out...
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 04:28 PM
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Mucho gracias, Steve...

I've only sat on Recaro SE. I'm planning to go a shop near me soon. They're cleaning out their inventories looks like.

Can't wait to hear your review on the new brakes!

Aria
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 05:24 PM
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Wow hey if you can spend only around $350 for that seat go for it!

Yeah... I'll talk about the brakes soon

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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 02:31 PM
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Yeah I would suggest going and trying out seats before you buy them. I have Forza's in my car right now and they fit me pretty good but I know some people dont' like them because they don't have enough lower back support. The cloth I think could be a little better but for the price they are not bad

On the TQ arm....I would suggest LG's as well. There is absolutly no binding at all. Its lighter and stronger than all of the others I have seen.

When you get into stuff like GW's and Spohn's where they change the lenght of the arm and its mounting points you start to change how the car reacts as far as dive and lift and the forces on the arm itself and the car. I have seen a lot of guys tear out the floor pan with the Spohn unit as well (these were pretty quick drag cars).

The way I look at it....go with the people that have experiance and LG has had enough experiance on the track to more than prove the design of the parts he sells.
Old Oct 14, 2002 | 09:43 PM
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How is the BMR xtreme torque arm? The one that mounts to a round crossmember that is welded directly to their subframe connectors? It seems like a good idea considering the torque arm is tied into a seperate crossmember which is welded to subframe connectors. I will also have my roll cage tied into the subframe connectors so that everything is connected. Any thoughts?
Old Oct 15, 2002 | 02:56 AM
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Question

So is a non adj TA preferred choice for auto-x and road racing? I just broke my Flow tech and I've been reading this post and others for awhile. I've got a set of reloc brackets so could that compensate for drag when I occasionally do that? Just trying to get some ideas before buying another one shortly.....
Old Oct 16, 2002 | 08:39 AM
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Unhappy

Nobody has a comment? I'd really like to have a idea what's more pratical for my application.
Old Oct 16, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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Sam Strano uses the Random Tech arm. And he knows his stuff. I have seen it in action on the 82 Camaro.
My self I am looking for a slightly shorter arm to change instant center and anit squat.
On paper the Spohn arm looks like my best bet. I will let people know when the time comes.
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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Shorter torque arms are definatly the way to go from an anit-squat (acceleration traction) standpoint. However, they do cause more wheel hop as a long torque arm is best for braking. The ideal torque arm is therefore de-coupled and acts short for accel and long for decel. We are prototyping one on Alan Blane's '94 ITE car right now.
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 03:30 PM
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Yea thats true. Which would make a shorter arm not good for the LS1 cars.
But in my enviroment (autocross) and having an LT1 (no brake hop problems) I think a shorter arm would work well.

If you come up with a decoupled arm that does not attach directly to the floor pan I will be a potential customer.

BTW I am going to send an E-mail. I would like to discuss something briefly, off-list.
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 04:37 PM
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I would not feel comfortable installing a torque arm in the stock location if I was putting down more than 400RWHP. That is quite a bit of stress being placed on your tranny, and I have heard of peoples tranny case and tunnel cracking. It just doesn't seem safe to me.

You guys also mentioned that the ones that mount to the tunnel brace can cause problems. Well, what if it was installed with DD subframes? They also connect to the tunnel brace and it seems that they would vastly improve the load distribution. Any thoughts?

Brian
Old Oct 17, 2002 | 04:48 PM
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I agree a shorter TA is better than a long one, even with the braking issues. I am currently running a GW track link on my '96 SM car, but that will be changed out as soon as we have production Unbalanced Engineering torque arms ready to ship. When I was running the LT1 front brakes, I still had occasional wheel hop issues, but once I swapped to the LS1 fronts the additional front brake bias fixed that. I'll drop the list a note when the UE unit is ready with all the details.
Old Oct 18, 2002 | 02:10 AM
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Thumbs up

Yeah keep us posted. I would like to see this TA and any results from it before buying mine. I'm leaning towards Spohn for sure but if something comes out better I'm all on it!
Old Oct 18, 2002 | 06:23 AM
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Hi ZBLKHELLRZR

Please keep me informed what you choose. This is my next mod.

Cheers Jagsy



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