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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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I think my stock sturt mounts are worn I can jack the car up and move the tire up and down looks like bad wheel bearings but I just replaced them and I can see the strut moving with it.My ? is should I just get stock strut plates or get adj. caster camber plates I have been runing stock aliment specs and the car drive's straight and turns great..2nd ? if I get the adj. plates can I adj. them at the track for better Handling and then set it back for street driving?3rd is there any other + of using adj. plates like less movement of the sturt? I am running nitto nt555r2's auto x tires all the time I really like them dont think I will ever go with another tire agian...thanks Sean

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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 01:15 PM
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While it don't have any experence with strut cars (4th gens are double arm, as you may know), it seems to me that any excessive compliance in the upper strut mount will make for reduced performance. Why would strut tower braces exist if compliance was not a problem.

That said, an adjustable camber/caster plate is really only helpful if you plan to make track to autoX to street adjustmants alot. (IMHO) However, you also have to keep in mind the new "bushing" design that works with the camber plates. If it is stock rubber then all you have gained is the adjustability. If it is poly of a spherical bearing then you have gained and adjustability and reduced the compliance.

Generally you can adjust these plate reasonably fast.

My last thought is: is your problem the strut mounts or the struts themselves?

And as with every upgrade, the question has to be asked, will this make me and my car faster on the track? Can I spend my time/money/effort better somewhere else?

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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NovaScotiaRS:
While it don't have any experence with strut cars, it seems to me that any excessive compliance in the upper strut mount will make for reduced performance. Why would strut tower braces exist if compliance was not a problem.

That said, an adjustable camber/caster plate is really only helpful if you plan to make track to autoX to street adjustmants alot. (IMHO) However, you also have to keep in mind the new "bushing" design that works with the camber plates. If it is stock rubber then all you have gained is the adjustability. If it is poly of a spherical bearing then you have gained and adjustability and reduced the compliance.

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When I build 3rd gens for classes that they are legal for, I use/sell Ground Control camber "plates". They are easily adjustable, but everytime you do so, the toe setting will change, so most people just set them and forget them. They replace the entire rubber portion of a 3rd gen's strut mount with metal and a sperical bearing. So there is no compliance in the part, and it does effect ride quality.....

FWIW on the STB..... They do help 3rd gen's, much more so that 4th gen cars because of the way the strut towers get loaded with the strut front suspension. That said, don't assume that just because something exists it's because it's needed. Yes, a STB on a 3rd gen is a big help, but there are plenty of things that exist to "make cars go faster" that are merely driven by a market full of folks that don't know any better...... Money makes the world go 'round.....

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