It is a Z28 Underneath... but a 57 Belair on the outside
07-31-2009, 01:43 PM
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I don't mean to be rude, but I don't like it--I've seen one or two of these before. I think it would better if you used an Impala or something else that had a more appropriate roofline, but I also must say I can't wait to see you finish it!
If you're going to build it to look similar to CheZoom... then that's another story. That would be quite cool. Otherwise, I think it's quite awkward to use a Camaro for it.
If you're going to build it to look similar to CheZoom... then that's another story. That would be quite cool. Otherwise, I think it's quite awkward to use a Camaro for it.
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07-31-2009, 07:55 PM
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07-31-2009, 08:38 PM
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I agree the 4th gen roof line is all wrong... that is why I started with a convertible.... and it will be only when I get caught in the rain that the top goes up. I only put the top up on the Z28 once other than when caught in the rain... so the nice lady at the NJ inspection station could see I had a rear window.
It will be some what like CheZoom, in fact it will also be blue. Compared to a real 57 Belair the front fenders have been sectioned and the overall length shorter. The rake of the windshield is very different too but gives it a look of speed.
More pics coming... just have to blow the dust off and clear away the tools so more of it can be seen.
It will be some what like CheZoom, in fact it will also be blue. Compared to a real 57 Belair the front fenders have been sectioned and the overall length shorter. The rake of the windshield is very different too but gives it a look of speed.
More pics coming... just have to blow the dust off and clear away the tools so more of it can be seen.
I don't mean to be rude, but I don't like it--I've seen one or two of these before. I think it would better if you used an Impala or something else that had a more appropriate roofline, but I also must say I can't wait to see you finish it!
If you're going to build it to look similar to CheZoom... then that's another story. That would be quite cool. Otherwise, I think it's quite awkward to use a Camaro for it.
If you're going to build it to look similar to CheZoom... then that's another story. That would be quite cool. Otherwise, I think it's quite awkward to use a Camaro for it.
07-31-2009, 09:02 PM
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07-31-2009, 09:54 PM
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08-01-2009, 03:28 PM
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I agree the 4th gen roof line is all wrong... that is why I started with a convertible.... and it will be only when I get caught in the rain that the top goes up. I only put the top up on the Z28 once other than when caught in the rain... so the nice lady at the NJ inspection station could see I had a rear window.
It will be some what like CheZoom, in fact it will also be blue. Compared to a real 57 Belair the front fenders have been sectioned and the overall length shorter. The rake of the windshield is very different too but gives it a look of speed.
More pics coming... just have to blow the dust off and clear away the tools so more of it can be seen.
It will be some what like CheZoom, in fact it will also be blue. Compared to a real 57 Belair the front fenders have been sectioned and the overall length shorter. The rake of the windshield is very different too but gives it a look of speed.
More pics coming... just have to blow the dust off and clear away the tools so more of it can be seen.
This is where the Avanti is a success, and that kit is not.
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08-01-2009, 08:51 PM
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I compared side view photos of both a real 57 and a converted Camaro. When you adjust the images so the axles are aligned the real 57 is much more boxy especially the front end. The converted camaro's nose is slightly longer and the tail fins taller. Overall the body has more of a rake to it.
[QUOTE=Brangeta;6059130]To me, the biggest problem with this kit, is the fact that the front end is so short. Although the cost of lengthening it might not be something you'd want to do, I think it's practically necessary. It needs to be squished vertically towards the front--I don't know what term to use to describe that, but it needs to be done. It just looks so messed up as-is.
[QUOTE=Brangeta;6059130]To me, the biggest problem with this kit, is the fact that the front end is so short. Although the cost of lengthening it might not be something you'd want to do, I think it's practically necessary. It needs to be squished vertically towards the front--I don't know what term to use to describe that, but it needs to be done. It just looks so messed up as-is.
08-01-2009, 09:00 PM
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I just followed followed from where the photo you posted came from... I looked at the other photos of the kit on that page. It is very different than what I am working with. The nose on mine has been chopped and sectioned so the fenders are tighter around the headlight. This make the nose a bit lower and longer looking.
Just as soon as I can get the car back on the ground I can take some better photos, the garage is just too tight to get a good picture of the whole car.
At the moment all the body panels are installed. I have to blend some seams, install a couple trim pieces and install the lights. I may take it for a test drive before sanding, priming and painting. The last items I need to purchase are the wheels and tires... the Camaro rims just are not going to work!
[QUOTE=Brangeta;6059130]To me, the biggest problem with this kit, is the fact that the front end is so short. Although the cost of lengthening it might not be something you'd want to do, I think it's practically necessary. It needs to be squished vertically towards the front--I don't know what term to use to describe that, but it needs to be done. It just looks so messed up as-is.
Just as soon as I can get the car back on the ground I can take some better photos, the garage is just too tight to get a good picture of the whole car.
At the moment all the body panels are installed. I have to blend some seams, install a couple trim pieces and install the lights. I may take it for a test drive before sanding, priming and painting. The last items I need to purchase are the wheels and tires... the Camaro rims just are not going to work!
[QUOTE=Brangeta;6059130]To me, the biggest problem with this kit, is the fact that the front end is so short. Although the cost of lengthening it might not be something you'd want to do, I think it's practically necessary. It needs to be squished vertically towards the front--I don't know what term to use to describe that, but it needs to be done. It just looks so messed up as-is.
08-02-2009, 05:12 PM
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08-02-2009, 09:23 PM
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and the super rare (i've never even seen one online before until i searched in this thread) 2006 avanti coupe
does that roofline look familliar? it should, you've probably seen one in the rear view mirror before. yeah thats right, it's a Mustang
they also made a 'vert
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08-03-2009, 11:00 AM
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[QUOTE=Brangeta;6059130]To me, the biggest problem with this kit, is the fact that the front end is so short. Although the cost of lengthening it might not be something you'd want to do, I think it's practically necessary. It needs to be squished vertically towards the front--I don't know what term to use to describe that, but it needs to be done. It just looks so messed up as-is.
I believe the problem is that the hood/fender line is higher then the window/shoulder line. Which makes the entire front look huge, high, and short. If they had lowered the fender line to below the mirror and replaced the mirrors with "vette type" mirrors or 3rd Gens., it would have looked better.
I believe the problem is that the hood/fender line is higher then the window/shoulder line. Which makes the entire front look huge, high, and short. If they had lowered the fender line to below the mirror and replaced the mirrors with "vette type" mirrors or 3rd Gens., it would have looked better.