i met some fbod guys the other night, and one of them asked me what springs I had. I told him it was stock ride height and he said no way. Some of the other guys didnt believe it either. I measured the distance from the top if the rim to the bottom of the fender and it is 5.5 inches in the back and 5 inches in the front. Also, one of the guys was able to fit 4 fingers between the rear wheel and fender of one guys car, but only fit 3 on mine. bth cars with 245/5/16 rubber.