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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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Thumbs up hella 90 mm owner's inside

For those of you running these lights, who has upgraded bulbs? If you have chosen to upgrade, what wattage and brand are you now using? If you are using over 100 watts, did you upgrade the wiring harness?

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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Here are the bulbs i bought, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KYDO-...78170117QQrdZ1
They seem to be working fine but are a little on the cheap side. The bases would fit really tight and when i'd try to turn them to lock them in place they'd just kind of get real loose. So i had to take them and bend the mounting tabs on the base so they'd fit tight. The bulbs are 100watts and i'm reusing my old Hella FF75 harnesses with them. The work pretty good but i've only had them on for a week and haven't done a lot of night time driving with them. They look like they put out slightly more like than the stock bulbs but i'm doing nothing but city driving as well so it's hard to tell because of the street lamps. I just hate orangish/yellowish light so i had to go with the hyperwhites.
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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someone wana sell my there's i dont have time to make them fit and do all the work... so cmon, somene sell me a set that are built and ready to go lol
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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I just got mine in the mail today, and was wondering why you couldn't just put an H9 HID conversion kit in them. Wouldn't that be the easiest and brightest.

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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by camarolt4ss
someone wana sell my there's i dont have time to make them fit and do all the work... so cmon, somene sell me a set that are built and ready to go lol
You're going to have to hack up your car anyways to make them fit, so good luck buying a set that'll just bolt right in.

GuywithaZ i think you can just go with the H9 HID setup, i see people on ebay are selling H9 HID setups for $140 shipped buy it now. It's looking pretty tempting.
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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na id only have to hack up the light support, so if someoen sold me the complete set up, id ship them mine in return.... so works both ways
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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na id only have to hack up the light support, so if someoen sold me the complete set up, id ship them mine in return.... so works both ways
All you have to do is buy the lights and the brackets and some angle aluminum. Then cut and bolt the angle aluminum to the the brackets after that install the light into the bracket. 75-85% of the time is just cutting and fitting things so the setup will fit. I'd say buying a setup from someone would save you maybe an hour of work.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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GuywithaZ i think you can just go with the H9 HID setup, i see people on ebay are selling H9 HID setups for $140 shipped buy it now. It's looking pretty tempting.
Yeah, I think it will be easier than modifing the housing. What still confuses me is the trimming of the metal plate on the inside. I have the US housings, and I don't get what the purpose of trimming the notch into it is. Why can't you just flip the plate over. I haven't tore these apart to look at them real close to inspect them.


On a side note...I don't know how much luck you will have finding a used kit for this. It's not easily undone so I doubt many people are taking it all apart.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Yeah, I think it will be easier than modifing the housing. What still confuses me is the trimming of the metal plate on the inside. I have the US housings, and I don't get what the purpose of trimming the notch into it is. Why can't you just flip the plate over. I haven't tore these apart to look at them real close to inspect them.


On a side note...I don't know how much luck you will have finding a used kit for this. It's not easily undone so I doubt many people are taking it all apart.

Yeah i have no idea why you have to cut the back of the housing, flipping it over might work.
Yeah there is probably no way a guy is gonna sell his setup used, because i had to cut out enough on my car that i can't go back to stock. I believe thats the way most of the setups will be, so the only way someone will sell their setup is if they wreck their car.
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by guywithaZ
I just got mine in the mail today, and was wondering why you couldn't just put an H9 HID conversion kit in them. Wouldn't that be the easiest and brightest.

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We sell them all the time with our SStreetlights kit. However the price of the "correct" HID 90mm projector has just dropped....this is a better way to go. Installing an HID retro in the H9 Halogen projector does not net you the same as using the correct 90mm HID unit....though we do it. Of course it isn't legal either.
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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hey Focuz.... how goes the replacement assembly?
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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hey Focuz.... how goes the replacement assembly?
Just posted an update.
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FocuzTech
We sell them all the time with our SStreetlights kit. However the price of the "correct" HID 90mm projector has just dropped....this is a better way to go. Installing an HID retro in the H9 Halogen projector does not net you the same as using the correct 90mm HID unit....though we do it. Of course it isn't legal either.
Could you please explain this? it seems that if the bulb is the same length and in the same position then it should work shouldn't it?
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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Could you please explain this? it seems that if the bulb is the same length and in the same position then it should work shouldn't it?
That is not true. The actual glass burner of the H9 uses a filament (HID Does not) and is in a different location than the light producing area of an HID burner...therefore when an HID bulb is retrofitted into an optical assembley originally designed for a halogen bulb, the surrounding reflector and projector lens can not take advantage of the bulbs overall performance. On a 90mm HID projector, the bulb is positioned correctly and does not use the same projector (spherical) lens.

A headlamp is a completely engineered device that encompass three primary components that must work together....the bulb, the reflector and the lens. In some cases the reflector may provide proper beam spread whereas in the headlamps in the FBody the glass lens is fluted...the fluting creates beam spread while the reflector "gathers" the light. If you introduce a bulb with "any" difference in filament position (or lack there of), length, mounting style...etc into a lamp that was not designed for it, you will get adverse affects. Seems tedious doesn't it? Well think of it this way....on a car with replaceable bulb headlamps that use...say a 9004....single-bulb dual fimlament...the bulb serves as both high and low beam...look closely at the difference in the position of each filament inside the bulb....just by that slight variation (which the lamp was engineered for) creates your high and low beam.
Old Jan 20, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FocuzTech
That is not true. The actual glass burner of the H9 uses a filament (HID Does not) and is in a different location than the light producing area of an HID burner...therefore when an HID bulb is retrofitted into an optical assembley originally designed for a halogen bulb, the surrounding reflector and projector lens can not take advantage of the bulbs overall performance. On a 90mm HID projector, the bulb is positioned correctly and does not use the same projector (spherical) lens.

A headlamp is a completely engineered device that encompass three primary components that must work together....the bulb, the reflector and the lens. In some cases the reflector may provide proper beam spread whereas in the headlamps in the FBody the glass lens is fluted...the fluting creates beam spread while the reflector "gathers" the light. If you introduce a bulb with "any" difference in filament position (or lack there of), length, mounting style...etc into a lamp that was not designed for it, you will get adverse affects. Seems tedious doesn't it? Well think of it this way....on a car with replaceable bulb headlamps that use...say a 9004....single-bulb dual fimlament...the bulb serves as both high and low beam...look closely at the difference in the position of each filament inside the bulb....just by that slight variation (which the lamp was engineered for) creates your high and low beam.
Do you think that going to the H9 HID filament is a real bad idea? If i ever want to make the switch to HID's i already have the 90mm's and i don't want to have to buy a new set of them.



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