This car is a disgrace...
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This car is a disgrace...
I just saw this on ebay. They are advertising it as one of the pace cars plus a ZR1. Not only is it not one of the pace cars, but it most certainly isn't a ZR1.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-...QQcmdZViewItem
If any of you have any doubt that it "could" be one of the pace cars, forget about it. No special interior, no white salad shooters, and come on... the only thing it has going for it, is the fact that it is a '93.
The only thing I can say is that it is interesting that they have all of the decals and especially the nose emblem. Those aren't things the aftermarket ever made as far as I know, and that means they probably did these appearance mods sometime in the '90s.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1993-...QQcmdZViewItem
If any of you have any doubt that it "could" be one of the pace cars, forget about it. No special interior, no white salad shooters, and come on... the only thing it has going for it, is the fact that it is a '93.
The only thing I can say is that it is interesting that they have all of the decals and especially the nose emblem. Those aren't things the aftermarket ever made as far as I know, and that means they probably did these appearance mods sometime in the '90s.
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I sent them a message explaining that their car is a rip off and definitely not a pace car. If it's still there in a day or two, I'll report it. I hate people that try to pull this crap.
On another note, as meissenation pointed out, these stickers are no longer available...so the next person with a legitimate pace car that needs a set of these stickers for whatever reason will have one less set available because somebody figured they wanted to make a crappy repro of a pace car. What a waste.
On another note, as meissenation pointed out, these stickers are no longer available...so the next person with a legitimate pace car that needs a set of these stickers for whatever reason will have one less set available because somebody figured they wanted to make a crappy repro of a pace car. What a waste.
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Thats bullsh*t...i hate when people try to mislead ebayers...It obviously just a high mileage automatic lt1..woot woot...i would be pissed to see someone buy this unaware of what it really is...
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At first I gave the guy some benefit of the doubt and thought maybe he was just trying to make his car something that it is not. Afterall, I see plenty of base model Hondas on the road with Type R and Vtec badges plastered all over them. Then I read the auction and it says, "own a piece of history", "this is one of the 600 pace cars made in 1993..." 
I hate scammers.
I hate scammers.
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I just got a response from the ebay seller:
I'm going to run a free carfax and see if it will tell me that much info... if it isn't true, I'm going to report him to ebay. 
Thank you for your concern. I read your email this morning and went to the Chevy dealership. We run the VIN and came out as a PACE car. They even print out documents that I will add them to the listing later on today.
Thank you
Matt
Thank you
Matt
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Carfax says nothing about it being a pace car, but I don't know if it normally would or not.
I'm not calling a GM dealership over this... I've done as much as I'm willing to do... it's a fake no matter what the guy says. Nobody who paid the extra money to have that black and white pace car paint job and those crazy cloth seats would throw it all away by making it look like a regular Z28 with pace car graphics. It's just a regular Z28 with the graphics...
I'm not calling a GM dealership over this... I've done as much as I'm willing to do... it's a fake no matter what the guy says. Nobody who paid the extra money to have that black and white pace car paint job and those crazy cloth seats would throw it all away by making it look like a regular Z28 with pace car graphics. It's just a regular Z28 with the graphics...
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(p.s. there was never a ZR1 4th gen Camaro for any year, that badge is just from a Corvette)
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Thank you for your concern. I read your email this morning and went to the Chevy dealership. We run the VIN and came out as a PACE car. They even print out documents that I will add them to the listing later on today.
Thank you
Matt
Thank you
Matt
There's plenty of specialty camaros out there that you can fake, but I'd say the 93 pace car would be one of the hardest to do. The graphic interior would be almost impossible to find the material for.
If I were going to fake any of the Camaros, the 30th anniv. Z's would be the easiest. The 35'th SS would be pretty easy to do as well, it's just gray inserts in a black leather seat with embroidered headrests. The stripes for each of those wouldn't be hard to pull off either, I can't count how many 35th anniv. stripes I've seen on non anniversary cars.
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I think the biggest mistake people make on this is that some models, 96-97, received the LT4 engine! And since that was in the ZR1, that is where the mis-conception comes in. But I could be wrong.
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And you are...the LT4 was in the grand sports and the LT5 was in the ZR-1. There's a biiiiig difference between the two.