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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by SStrokerAce
You mean this?

http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/ProdLin...ics/f7540P.jpg

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So the LTX intake runner is about 3.5", how long are the runners on the Holley?

Just for the sake of simplicity, take a bolt-on LT1 with a mild cam (like the hotcam or CC305) and dyno it. Then throw this intake on top.....what would it do/ how would it affect the hp/tq curves? Raise the peaks? Move them further up in the rpm range? Broaden the curves out?
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by The Highlander
For all this trouble on designing an intake why not design a roots type blower for the lt1?
Or maybe an Eaton?
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...hreadid=122109

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...g+intake+eaton
Old Jun 12, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Fast Caddie
Just for the sake of simplicity, take a bolt-on LT1 with a mild cam (like the hotcam or CC305) and dyno it. Then throw this intake on top.....what would it do/ how would it affect the hp/tq curves? Raise the peaks? Move them further up in the rpm range? Broaden the curves out?
It would give you alot more midrange TQ and if it flowed better give you more HP. It's hard to say unless I looked at it. That's my best guess now.


Dave,

#7 is not going to have the charge go up the port when the valve is open, and that's the only time when the injector is firing, in a well setup system.

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Old Jun 12, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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I am certainly not an expert on this, but it seems to me that the air charge would more toward 5 when it opened, then once 7 opened it would go back toward 7 like it should, but it may be lazy from reversing its inertia like that...? mabye I'm over estimating the amount of charge that #5 would take....
Old Aug 19, 2003 | 02:05 AM
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ok, finally have some pics of this up:

on the left, a standard ported LT4 intake.

on the right, a welded intake. the cross section is MUCH more consistant, and although the roof line is still not perfect, it is MUCH closer to what you would get from a Hogan, etc. not a stupid "ski jump" like the stocker

http://www.musserracing.com/heads/intake/raceport2.jpg
Old Aug 19, 2003 | 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by JordonMusser
ok, finally have some pics of this up:

on the left, a standard ported LT4 intake.

on the right, a welded intake. the cross section is MUCH more consistant, and although the roof line is still not perfect, it is MUCH closer to what you would get from a Hogan, etc. not a stupid "ski jump" like the stocker

http://www.musserracing.com/heads/intake/raceport2.jpg
This winter you'll probably be getting my intake. The other intake pics on your site look even better.
Old Aug 19, 2003 | 10:27 PM
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How would firing order change effect the crankshaft?? I haven't seen any comments on that. If #5 & #7 were the only problem,,...you could probably leave those unmodified right? SStroker, I'd be interested in collaborating on the Holley modifications. Contact me.
Old Aug 21, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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Jordan,

Have you performed any back-to-back dyno tests on this intake? What did you gain and at what rpm? Engine details would be nice also. Just curious.

Thanks,

Daren
Old Aug 22, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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This is a great discussion. How much HP & lbs/ft will be gained from this effort? Just wondering about the return on investment.

Thanks
Old Aug 24, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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Gump,
The only dyno number I have are on my motor, but they weren't back to back.

I had a motor with 12.5:1 that made 451rwhp.

I then added this intake, and lowered the compression to 12.0:1 (both changes at once)

and made 471.

So even with the drop of compression, I still made more power. HOWEVER, there was at least a month inbetween these 2 dyno sessions, and they were at different shops. both dynojets tho.

This was on a 7k rpm 401ci motor.

Your results may vary, but this is what I 'got. As I get more data, I will share

I know mike lict(of modern muscle car) was claiming they had a big blower car that picked up 30rwhp.
Old Aug 24, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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Thanks Jordan.

I am in the process of converting my Stocker to run Top Stock. LT1 to LT4, unported heads/intake to ported heads/intake. I have read your posts with great interrest. I hope that the modifications that I have made to my intake will help a lot.
On the heads I am limited to 205 CC's, which allows for only limited porting. As you can tell, a lot rests with the intake.
My LT1 (350 ci) made a little over 400 RWHP with factory blueprinted heads (no porting) and bone stock intake, 48mm throttle body. So, I have high hopes for my Top Stock motor.

Again, thanks for the reply,

Daren
Old Sep 3, 2003 | 02:22 AM
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Originally posted by GUMP
My LT1 (350 ci) made a little over 400 RWHP with factory blueprinted heads (no porting) and bone stock intake, 48mm throttle body. So, I have high hopes for my Top Stock motor.
Daren
Gotta love Drag Racing motors. It's always cool to see what you guys can do with a motor. The tricks aren't the best thing for long life and street cars but a stock headed LT1 making 400rwhp is impressive.

Bret
Old Sep 6, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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- My LT1 (350 ci) made a little over 400 RWHP with factory blueprinted heads (no porting) and bone stock intake, 48mm throttle body. So, I have high hopes for my Top Stock motor.-

how is that possible?!
Old Sep 7, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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My C/SA motor made that number with factory crank, rods, and OEM .030 over pistons. The biggest change within the motor is the cam. I am limited to factory lift, but duration is not checked. I am also limited to factory stamped rockers. The motor is also within a couple of thousands on all critticle measurements.
The chassis and drivetrain were also assembled for optimum efficiency.
I will be at the IHRA race at Budds Creek MD at the end of this month. Come by and see me. My Camaro is bright red with "Ta-Dink!" on the doors.

Best Regards,

Daren Poole-Adams
IHRA 9043
Old Sep 7, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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heh thats pretty cool dude! some people struggle to make 400 at the wheels with there strokers/ported heads big cam etc. id love to find out some secrets! im gonna try to make it to budds creek!

rick

oh btw whats she run?

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