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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by rskrause
Arnie: I believe that the source of much of the original info were tests which were done by Sir Harry Ricardo. I have a copy of his book "The High-Speed Internal Combustion Engine" published in 1922. Great reading!

The text which I quoted originally is from the "Gasoline FAQ" which can be found at http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/gasoline-faq/part3/ The FAQ references the following sources, among others. "Alternative Fuels" by E.M.Goodger. MacMillan. ISBN 0-333-25813-4 (1980) and "Water Addition to Gasoline - Effect on Combustion, Emissions, Performance, and Knock" by J.A. Harrington. SAE Technical Paper 820314 (1982). I have not read these sources first hand.?
Rich, thanks for your reply to my post.

What part is contradictory or do you not agree with?

Haven't had a chance to read the source you presented, so I'm using the material in your post. I'm referring to the following:

Trying to increase power boosting above 40% is difficult, as the engine can drown because of excessive liquid [110].

Aviation engines are designed to accommodate water injection, most automobile engines are not.


Tests were conducted with the addition of water in quantities in excess of 50% (by volume) with success. Tests were also carried out with the quantity of water exceeding the quantity of the fuel. I also question the need for specially built WI specific, engines.

As a general source of the water injection tests, there is the following: http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/1943-cit.html

For the WI test results itself:
http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/reports/1943/naca-report-756/
Old Aug 8, 2003 | 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by arnie
Rich, thanks for your reply to my post.

What part is contradictory or do you not agree with?

Haven't had a chance to read the source you presented, so I'm using the material in your post. I'm referring to the following:

Trying to increase power boosting above 40% is difficult, as the engine can drown because of excessive liquid [110].

Aviation engines are designed to accommodate water injection, most automobile engines are not.


Tests were conducted with the addition of water in quantities in excess of 50% (by volume) with success. Tests were also carried out with the quantity of water exceeding the quantity of the fuel. I also question the need for specially built WI specific, engines.

As a general source of the water injection tests, there is the following: http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/1943-cit.html

For the WI test results itself:
http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/reports/1943/naca-report-756/
Thanks for the link. It will take a while to digest the whole thing. I also do not agree with (or at any rate do not understand) the statement from the FAQ that implies some sort of special engine design to utilize water. I have no idea what this refers to.

Rich Krause
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