Advanced Tech Advanced tech discussion. Major rebuilds, engine theory, etc.
HIGH-END DISCUSSION ONLY - NOT FOR GENERAL TECH INFO

Target A/F ratio????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-03-2003, 11:58 AM
  #16  
Registered User
 
Dr.Mudge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 2,148
Originally posted by rskrause
Dr. Mudge: Good point in terms of part throttle, but while I am not real familiar with OEM part throttle tuning I always thought that they aim for a bit leaner than stoich at light load part throttle cruise (and leaner still under lift throttle).
Hmm, mayhaps, dunno. I remember in one truck's PCM that there was a cruise mode, that would only every several seconds (I think) check the O2s and look for knock, while in this cruise mode it would run in the 16.0:1 range or thereabouts. I remember awhile back people were wondering if it could be found in other PCMs also, but I believe it was taken out, or at least hidden, since this doesn't help pollution in terms of the tailpipe emissions only in less fuel used.
Dr.Mudge is offline  
Old 01-03-2003, 08:26 PM
  #17  
Registered User
 
number77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,428
Originally posted by kmook
Done, Look for the "Rich Krause Knowledge Base" forum comming soon
Awasome, i am definitely looking foward to spending some late nights reading his stuff.
number77 is offline  
Old 01-03-2003, 08:38 PM
  #18  
Moderator
 
rskrause's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1969
Location: Buffalo, New York
Posts: 10,745
Originally posted by kmook
Done, Look for the "Rich Krause Knowledge Base" forum comming soon
Like most men, I am expert at three things. Of course, I am an expert driver (which includes knowledge of cars). That's the first. And my sense of direction is second to none. That leaves the third thing that I, along with all the rest of you guys, am in total mastery of.

Anyone know what it is?

Rich Krause
rskrause is offline  
Old 01-04-2003, 02:29 AM
  #19  
Registered User
 
4drLT4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: NorCal
Posts: 229
Your own domain...perhaps?

4drLT4 is offline  
Old 01-04-2003, 10:00 AM
  #20  
Registered User
 
Eric Bryant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Michigan's left coast
Posts: 2,405
Originally posted by cmillard
A 4 or 5 gas analyzer is also key for tuning.
The problem is that they're kinda slow, so they're typically used with a load-brake dyno. I don't think they'll work fast enough to be used with a powerful car on a inertial-type dyno.

Lean-burn isn't used on OEM PCMs anymore, as the feds cracked down on it (lean mixtures tend to increase the oxides of nitrogen). To the best of my knowledge, GM hasn't included that strategy in their PCMs since the days of TBI.

The dithering above and below stoich wasn't originally designed to aid the cats (which, at the time, where two-way devices); it was simply the result of overshoot in the control algorithm due to a slightly underdamped condition (which was necessary to react quickly enough to "noise" in the system; damping all the oscillations would have made the time constant of the system unacceptably slow). The two-way cats only needed oxygen, which they got either from the lean portion of the oscillation or an auxilary air pump. Later, when three-way cats came along, the rich portion of the oscillation became useful again (as it's somehow used in the reduction of the oxides of nitrogen).
Eric Bryant is offline  
Old 01-06-2003, 07:54 AM
  #21  
Registered User
 
cmillard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Charlottesville, VA, USA
Posts: 175
Hey Eric, Really like what you've done with your webpage, good pics, good info, thanks for sharing.

Good Point on the 4-5 gas analyzer, it wouldn't refresh fast enough for WOT, but it's invaluable for part-throttle tuning, I know a shop that uses one all the time.

Thanks,
- Christian
cmillard is offline  
Old 05-09-2003, 06:56 AM
  #22  
Registered User
 
PoorMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Lousiana
Posts: 1,534
I have a paper on 02 sensors if ne1 here is feeling geeky.
It's pretty good.

Jeff D.
PoorMan is offline  
Old 05-15-2003, 12:03 PM
  #23  
Registered User
 
Eric Bryant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Michigan's left coast
Posts: 2,405
Originally posted by PoorMan
I have a paper on 02 sensors if ne1 here is feeling geeky.
It's pretty good.
We're always feeling geeky around here Share away!
Eric Bryant is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Nayr
LT1 Based Engine Tech
7
03-03-2023 08:34 PM
13qtr
Parts For Sale
24
10-28-2016 08:11 PM
Z Power
LT1 Based Engine Tech
8
09-19-2015 11:19 PM
Henson071
Parts For Sale
0
08-04-2015 09:32 AM



Quick Reply: Target A/F ratio????



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:23 AM.