sb2.2 heads
Originally Posted by Mindgame
BTW Rob,
The engine is the same external dimensions as the LT1.
Well, it's a little beefier and has a .300 taller deck but everything fits just like "stock".
-MG
The engine is the same external dimensions as the LT1.
Well, it's a little beefier and has a .300 taller deck but everything fits just like "stock".
-MG
SB2.2 =
.Ryan
Re: sb2.2 heads
Ryan,
I wish I could go into detail about the manifold but the magic isn't really something you can see without taking the thing off and looking inside it. Yes, CFE did the intake and I'm using two 90mm throttle bodies on this one. Both are forward facing.
I used up just about every inch of space under the hood. All the space that would have been occupied by a strut tower brace is now plenum volume and aluminum.
-Mindgame
I wish I could go into detail about the manifold but the magic isn't really something you can see without taking the thing off and looking inside it. Yes, CFE did the intake and I'm using two 90mm throttle bodies on this one. Both are forward facing.
I used up just about every inch of space under the hood. All the space that would have been occupied by a strut tower brace is now plenum volume and aluminum.

-Mindgame
Re: sb2.2 heads
Dos plenums chief. 
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...74697245QHeiJu
These are the splayed heads I had in mind. They'd probably be my first choice if I were playing that game... that or maybe the Little Chief. For a single carb motor... I'd say sb2.2 all the way.
-Mindgame

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...74697245QHeiJu
These are the splayed heads I had in mind. They'd probably be my first choice if I were playing that game... that or maybe the Little Chief. For a single carb motor... I'd say sb2.2 all the way.
-Mindgame
Re: sb2.2 heads
Originally Posted by Mindgame
I'm using two 90mm throttle bodies on this one. Both are forward facing.
Re: sb2.2 heads
Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Yeah... the Little Cheifs are nice. But $10K+ for a set of heads ready to run without the rest of the parts gets steep!
I like limits on things like parts... something more realistic to play with then.
I like limits on things like parts... something more realistic to play with then.

I'd like to see limits too Bret but it's a crazy world. It's never cheap of you want to win cause everyone's cheating to some extent.
MEAN,
I'm writing a book with pictures and a pop-out. Will tell you how to build your own sb2.2 "small" block car for somewhere between $40-80k. The book of course is much cheaper at just $24.99 + shipping.
Don't feel bad though, I was looking at an older Playboy the other day and wondered... "How much would it cost to make a duplicate of Jenny McCarthy?". Now that I'd buy!

-Mindgame
Re: sb2.2 heads
Originally Posted by Mindgame
There's cheap racing, there's expensive racing, and there's damned little in between. 
I'd like to see limits too Bret but it's a crazy world. It's never cheap of you want to win cause everyone's cheating to some extent.
MEAN,
I'm writing a book with pictures and a pop-out. Will tell you how to build your own sb2.2 "small" block car for somewhere between $40-80k. The book of course is much cheaper at just $24.99 + shipping.
Don't feel bad though, I was looking at an older Playboy the other day and wondered... "How much would it cost to make a duplicate of Jenny McCarthy?". Now that I'd buy!
-Mindgame

I'd like to see limits too Bret but it's a crazy world. It's never cheap of you want to win cause everyone's cheating to some extent.
MEAN,
I'm writing a book with pictures and a pop-out. Will tell you how to build your own sb2.2 "small" block car for somewhere between $40-80k. The book of course is much cheaper at just $24.99 + shipping.
Don't feel bad though, I was looking at an older Playboy the other day and wondered... "How much would it cost to make a duplicate of Jenny McCarthy?". Now that I'd buy!

-Mindgame
NEXT upgrade for mine will be SB2 heads with a sheet metal and 2 4 hole air valves but it's got to run what I brung for now. That's way to much for now-- Got to finish the car first--- and this @#$%^&* 4" exhaust.
Maybe 300 hoss of hose wil get it done for now. That should be in the 900-1000FWHP range.
Yep MG got toy's!!!!!!
Re: sb2.2 heads
Originally Posted by Mindgame
Don't feel bad though, I was looking at an older Playboy the other day and wondered... "How much would it cost to make a duplicate of Jenny McCarthy?". Now that I'd buy! 
-Mindgame

-Mindgame
lol
Yeah, I can understand that.
Bret
Re: sb2.2 heads
Originally Posted by Mindgame
Don't feel bad though, I was looking at an older Playboy the other day and wondered... "How much would it cost to make a duplicate of Jenny McCarthy?". Now that I'd buy!

-Mindgame
Re: sb2.2 heads
Originally Posted by Mindgame
I'm writing a book with pictures and a pop-out. Will tell you how to build your own sb2.2 "small" block car for somewhere between $40-80k. The book of course is much cheaper at just $24.99 + shipping.
Well, just so you guys know I have been inundated with e-mails about this engine. I wouldn't mind so much if the questions were legitimate but most of it just amounts to a somewhat clever way of calling me a liar. Instead of replying to e-mail I'll go ahead and cover some of it here for those of you who are serious about building a street engine with the 2.2 cylinder head.
I'll rephrase the questions I received in hopes of removing the sarcasm....
"How did you get the compression ratio down?"
As a raw casting the heads come to you at 28cc. From there who knows where they can go. I've seen combustion chambers as large as 56cc for these heads. Mine happen to be 52.
The bore is 4.2", stroke is 4.125", piston volume (reverse dome copy) is 28cc and compressed gasket thickness is .040. Static compression is right at 11.5:1 and yes, that works just fine with pump gas. Who would have figured?
"Did you know that the 2.2 is a "splayed" head"
Semantics.
Sorry, when I think of a "Splayed Valve Head" my thoughts take me to the GM Splayed, Brodix BD2000 or some other such animal. Intake and exhaust valves have a cant to them. Not to mention they have a different valve order but what do I know.
The SB2.2 is just a 2.2 to me. I've been away from racing long enough that I don't know if the 2.2 falls under the "Splayed Valve" ruling but I can insure you this.... if I were building an engine for class racing I'd be sure to find out.
"How does this engine make so much power?
I thought it was a little low on power myself.
Actually, I was hoping for a little more. When you look at my displacement and the hp it made we didn't break any records for NA street engines. There are guys out there with drivers making 1.8 hp/cid and better. I didn't even break 1.7. Hey, you can't please all the people all the time and the disbelievers will likely remain disbelievers no matter what is said. I have my own unique reasons for not posting more information than I have but that's my business.
Ahh anyways, I'm done for now...
-Mindgame
I'll rephrase the questions I received in hopes of removing the sarcasm....
"How did you get the compression ratio down?"
As a raw casting the heads come to you at 28cc. From there who knows where they can go. I've seen combustion chambers as large as 56cc for these heads. Mine happen to be 52.
The bore is 4.2", stroke is 4.125", piston volume (reverse dome copy) is 28cc and compressed gasket thickness is .040. Static compression is right at 11.5:1 and yes, that works just fine with pump gas. Who would have figured?
"Did you know that the 2.2 is a "splayed" head"
Semantics.

Sorry, when I think of a "Splayed Valve Head" my thoughts take me to the GM Splayed, Brodix BD2000 or some other such animal. Intake and exhaust valves have a cant to them. Not to mention they have a different valve order but what do I know.
The SB2.2 is just a 2.2 to me. I've been away from racing long enough that I don't know if the 2.2 falls under the "Splayed Valve" ruling but I can insure you this.... if I were building an engine for class racing I'd be sure to find out.
"How does this engine make so much power?
I thought it was a little low on power myself.

Actually, I was hoping for a little more. When you look at my displacement and the hp it made we didn't break any records for NA street engines. There are guys out there with drivers making 1.8 hp/cid and better. I didn't even break 1.7. Hey, you can't please all the people all the time and the disbelievers will likely remain disbelievers no matter what is said. I have my own unique reasons for not posting more information than I have but that's my business.
Ahh anyways, I'm done for now...
-Mindgame



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