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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Ok im lookin for a 5.850 rod that will handle 1400 hp with sufficent cam clearences on a 396 i was looking at the eagle long stroke clearence rods desinded for storkers any other suggestions on roods that might be a better choice or will these do im looking for a car with 800 rwhp through a th400
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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Better look into Crower billets. 1400 hp isn't realistic. For that kind of power most would do aluminum and a real forged aluminum rod such as a Brooks will have a difficult time with clearance.
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by markinkc69z
Better look into Crower billets. 1400 hp isn't realistic. For that kind of power most would do aluminum and a real forged aluminum rod such as a Brooks will have a difficult time with clearance.

I was just using that as an example because with the apr 2000 bolts that what the egale rods are rated at oliver and crower rods seem to be common too i was just looking for a good rod to go with the stroke and i havent found a oliver 5.850 rod either does crower make one

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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Both Oliver and Carrillo list a 5.850" Billet rod. You could also call Cunningham Rods (310)538-0605 who I use for custom stuff. The Olivers are $1300, Carrillo's are $1600.

DO NOT use Eagle's for a motor like this!!!
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MachinistOne
Both Oliver and Carrillo list a 5.850" Billet rod. You could also call Cunningham Rods (310)538-0605 who I use for custom stuff. The Olivers are $1300, Carrillo's are $1600.

DO NOT use Eagle's for a motor like this!!!



well i figured saying eagle woulf raise a flag of urgency to respond in this cas also which would be best for cam clearence on a 3.875 stroke ive been leaning toward oliver seems to be the the choice of high horse builds
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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so the billets are stronger then forged im confused here becuse the forged do no have a 5.850 rod but billit do and i need a rod that can stand up to the rigors of 800+ hp through a th400
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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The billet is still a forging. Its just not forged to net shape. Its cut out of a plate of material on a cnc mill. This allows the manufactuer to offer several lengths and beam profiles.
You do know the manufactuers will talk to you on the phone, right? You're not the first guy to build a strong small block.
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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What are you boosting the motor with? RPM range?
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Good article
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/c...nnecting_rods/
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MachinistOne
What are you boosting the motor with? RPM range?
t88 at 15 lbs and up too 7k rpms
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Those rods I mentioned will be fine. What crank and pistons are you using? Block and prep? Oil system?
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by markinkc69z
The billet is still a forging. Its just not forged to net shape. Its cut out of a plate of material on a cnc mill. This allows the manufactuer to offer several lengths and beam profiles.
You do know the manufactuers will talk to you on the phone, right? You're not the first guy to build a strong small block.
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I am well aware that manufactures can be contacted but at this time they cant so i ask on here because chances are youll know what im looking for then i call certain places based of you recommened vendors and ask them i just want to do this right and get a good education on hi po motors
Old Oct 24, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MachinistOne
Those rods I mentioned will be fine. What crank and pistons are you using? Block and prep? Oil system?

.30 0ver splayed 4 bolt main alinged honened (any perticular main set i should use?) decked hotanked magflux all clearenceces balance blue printed basiclly the works a machine shop any prep steps that would be in perticular to this im no aware of? please let me know i stated before i want to do this right i was thinking the morso high volume oil pump and pick up with the morso largr racing i think its 7 quart? oil pan as well i feel like im forgeting somthing dont mind spelling i hate laptops oh yeah callies dragon slayer crank and i was thinking JE slugs would holf to the challenge with hellfire rings

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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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I would not be using a production block. You need a Bowtie block.
Old Oct 25, 2006 | 05:24 AM
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15lbs of boost is not going to net 1,400hp. on a small block with 23 degree heads. But you do need a better rod than the Eagle for a hi-po application. I like Oliver's, but the others mentioned are good too. You are also going to need a top quality crank, btw.

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