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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 02:29 PM
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Pulleys/Brackets/Accessories

I am cramming a '71 Chevy 383 from an Impala into my 95 V6 3.4L. I don't know what to do with my accessories, brackets, or pulleys. Can I use the accessories (water pump, alternator, ac compressor, power steering, etc) and the brackets and pulleys from a 95 LT1 Camaro or do I need to use standard SBC accessories. If I do use standard SBC accessories is there any way I can pull the serpentine pulleys off of my A/C Compressor, Alternator, and Power Steering Pump and put V-Belt pulleys on them.

Anyway, any help would be appreciated, I am desperate.

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Old Oct 14, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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I think you need to clarify the purpose of this swap. Most people who have gone to a Gen 1 smallblock have done it on a "race" application. A daily driver might present a few more problems.

What emissions (if any) do you have to meet? Obviously a carb'd Gen 1 engine will not pass a visual on a 4th Gen, and will not pass an IM240-type tailpipe test.

Then you need to explain what, it any, of the stock PCM functions you plan to retain from your 95 4th Gen. Are you attempting to keep the fuel system intact (wrong pressure capabilities for a carb)? Will you switch to the engine mounted pump? Do you need to support the dash speedo from the VSS? Will you bypass the PASS key system?

Then there are issues of what you intend to put behind the Gen 1 block... what trans?

I don't think that fitting it in, finding motor mounts and cobbling up an acccessory drive system will be all that difficult. Fitting the carb under the hood is an issue.... cowl hood will resolve that. Fitting the distributor under the cowl has been done, but the ones I've seen took some surgery. A pancake distributor, or something like the MSD CPC system, with a cam-sensor "plug" in place of the distributor would solve that problem.

A little more info on the total plan might help us answer the questions and supply some details. I think this may be the reason you aren't getting a lot of responses.
Old Oct 15, 2002 | 12:00 AM
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Injuneer, thank you very much for the response. I hadn't had much luck earlier so I was keeping the post small in cas I got no response. Anyway......

I decided I wanted to do something different with my 95 3.4L V6 Camaro. So me and my girlfriends dad decided to build a SBC for it as he had done several times when he was younger. We were going with the large assumption that an LT1 and a SBC (in my case from a '71 Impala) would just fit right in with no problems. We also wanted it to be carbed for a retro effect, and also because my girlfriends dad knew how to tune them. (I also assumed it would be cheaper) Anyway the engine is complete besides accessories and air cleaner, and headers. I have over $5000 in the engine so selling it and buying an LT1 isn't something I want to do. I have a rebuilt 700-R4 which I heard would bolt right up because it is the same as the 4L60E that is in the car now.

I have no interest in using a PCM. I was thinking of using a crab cap distributor and a crank trigger. My problems are, what radiator will fit. (LT1's are reverse cooled) What headers will fit as I have Vortec heads on my motor and I don't know if LT1 headers will bolt up to Vortec heads. Also, what accessories will fit. I would like to reuse my A/C compressor, Alternator, and water pump if possible but I am willing to do anything to get it to work. Also, it is carbed so I know I am going to have to hack up my cowl. The wipers are in the cowl and I would like to keep them

Anyway, any help or anyone you know that I could contact would be great

If you need any more detail/info let me know.

Thanks,
Adam

P.S. Its my daily driver.
Old Oct 15, 2002 | 12:03 AM
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I forgot.

There are no emmisions requirements.

I was planning on an electric fuel pump.

I would like to use a stock gauge cluster but I will autometer the whole thing if I have to.


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Old Oct 15, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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unless florida has substantially different laws than texas (and i don't think so, cause most of this stuff is federal law) you cannot legally do this.

i could be wrong, but federal law says you cannot change the function of or disable any emmissions control equipment that came standard with your car. you must keep everything that came with the car to keep it legal. unforntuneatelym that means fuel injection. if you ever want an easy inspection again, no carbs. don't get me wrong, we all know "a guy" who will inspect it and pass it. but if you get caught, the fines are HUGE. and "the guy" may lose his ability to give state controlled inspections.

having said that, how many times do you see !cat, !egr, !air? not really legal, but small enough to get away with. i know a guy here in austin who removed a f.i. turbo 2.6 liter from his car and installed a 4.3l chevy with a huge blower, but he stayed f.i with an accel dfi. you can try it.....

use the regular sbc brackets and stuff. the lt1 stuff probably wouldn't fit, and won't drive the water pump. radiator should work fine, just plug up the extra holes. reverse flow cooling doesn't have anything to do with the radiator. the all work basically the same.
Old Oct 15, 2002 | 04:34 PM
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No one I knwo that lives here has ever had a smog inpection that I know of. That leads me to believe that there are no emmissions tests here.

So, an Lt1 Radiator will work with my '71?
Old Oct 15, 2002 | 04:59 PM
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just because they've never done a sniffer test does not mean that you have no emmissions inspections. around here anyway, they list the hood and do a visual test, like checking for removed cats. i've been popped b4 cause i took out so much stuff that they noticed it wasn't right. it helped me that i have a car that they don't see a lot of, so they don't really know what it is supposed to look like. but with a camaro, i'm sure they know EXACLTY what should be installed.

but don't take my word for it, go to your local D.O.T. and check you specific laws. but, like i said, most laws are federal. i KNOW FOR A FACT you can get a hefty federal fine for getting caught with hollowed or removed cats. how? cause i got caught. my lucky day, an auditor was standing right behind me when i started talking smack about " i deleted this, removed this, threw away egr." beleive me, you do not want to pay these fines. they are huge.

i don't think there is any reason why you couldn't use the lt2 rad. just make sure you don't have any holes.
Old Oct 15, 2002 | 05:52 PM
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really, yeah a fine would suck bad. Thanks for the info.




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