possible LT1 intake design flaw?
not much of a machinist myself, but I'd wager even a hand-drill could get the job done. 
The "drilled" part they're refering to above isn't the cast-in holes you see from the runners, but under the pipe-threaded plugs underneath the intake. Cylinder 1 is drilled smaller than the rest... to match the rest of it's casting. If you heat and unscrew the plugs that face the lifter valley you'll see what I mean.
As for the reason... I dunno. "maybe" the millions of dollars of R&D GM does on powertrain controls could shed some light on it... but as mentioned above, I doubt it was accidental. If there was a casting error you wouldn't expect GM to conincidentally make a drilling error as well on the same exact passage... especially over several manifold revisions (92/93 LT1, 94-97 LT1, 96/97 LT4).
I've got a suspicion it has to do with firing order and airflow distribution in those idle passages (you'd need inspect a naked intake to see what I mean).

The "drilled" part they're refering to above isn't the cast-in holes you see from the runners, but under the pipe-threaded plugs underneath the intake. Cylinder 1 is drilled smaller than the rest... to match the rest of it's casting. If you heat and unscrew the plugs that face the lifter valley you'll see what I mean.
As for the reason... I dunno. "maybe" the millions of dollars of R&D GM does on powertrain controls could shed some light on it... but as mentioned above, I doubt it was accidental. If there was a casting error you wouldn't expect GM to conincidentally make a drilling error as well on the same exact passage... especially over several manifold revisions (92/93 LT1, 94-97 LT1, 96/97 LT4).
I've got a suspicion it has to do with firing order and airflow distribution in those idle passages (you'd need inspect a naked intake to see what I mean).
Originally posted by arnie
Actually, if ya want to talk about design flaws, anyone, ever take off the TB and NOT find black 'soot' in the intake plenum? What is that tellin' ya?
Thot I should add this: anyone find as much soot in the LSx intake plenum upon inspection?
Actually, if ya want to talk about design flaws, anyone, ever take off the TB and NOT find black 'soot' in the intake plenum? What is that tellin' ya?
Thot I should add this: anyone find as much soot in the LSx intake plenum upon inspection?
The other reason is the PVC system that insists on puking hot oil gases into the manifold.
Originally posted by Steve in Seattle
If you heat and unscrew the plugs that face the lifter valley you'll see what I mean.
If you heat and unscrew the plugs that face the lifter valley you'll see what I mean.
Bret
Originally posted by Steve in Seattle
I've got a suspicion it has to do with firing order and airflow distribution in those idle passages (you'd need inspect a naked intake to see what I mean).
I've got a suspicion it has to do with firing order and airflow distribution in those idle passages (you'd need inspect a naked intake to see what I mean).
Originally posted by SStrokerAce
No need to heat them, a good ole 3/8 wrench gets them out for me.
No need to heat them, a good ole 3/8 wrench gets them out for me.
A quick hit with the heat gun fixed it though (wish I'd thought of it sooner). The factory intake I'm working on had red locktite on the brass plugs so in hind-sight the heat could'a saved me time from the get-go.
Originally posted by arnie
Actually, if ya want to talk about design flaws, anyone, ever take off the TB and NOT find black 'soot' in the intake plenum? What is that tellin' ya?
Thot I should add this: anyone find as much soot in the LSx intake plenum upon inspection?
Actually, if ya want to talk about design flaws, anyone, ever take off the TB and NOT find black 'soot' in the intake plenum? What is that tellin' ya?
Thot I should add this: anyone find as much soot in the LSx intake plenum upon inspection?
And wouldn't it be a bit difficult to tell how the inside of an LS1 intake is? I mean, it is basically a black plastic, right?
And some of those cars don't have EGR IIRC.
Originally posted by AdioSS
I'm leaning toward EGR..
I'm leaning toward EGR..
What, a problem seeing black soot against a black backround? LOL
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