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Old Feb 6, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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Re: Piston Speed

Originally Posted by 95Zedder
I am building a 396 stroker with all forged parts and was just trying to figure out the maximum rpm it should see so i can pick a cam. Thanks

Bore:4.030
Stroke: 3.875
Rod: 6.000
Yea === I agree with doc. The bottom end would stay together at 8500 (if built right-not stock block) But ya will need a set of head's and intake system that will flow 325CFM+ to make power above 6500RPM's.
Don't want to here from people saying the "are" making HP up there 'cause I haven't heard of but maybe 3 on this board with a N/A 396+ making 1.6-1.7HP per CI. The ones I have heard are running SB2.2 or 12-15* stuff so there is your intake capabality right there with the heads flowing in excess of 360CFM.
Old Mar 5, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Re: Piston Speed

Ok...I just spent some time using derivatives to calculate the speed of a piston at a given position (degrees). I then made an equation for it, and put it in a graphing program, so that I can substitute in the stroke, rod length, degrees, and rpm (I haven't gotten to completely check it though). How does this help to build a better engine?

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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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Re: Piston Speed

Originally Posted by number77
Ok...I just spent some time using derivatives to calculate the speed of a piston at a given position (degrees). I then made an equation for it, and put it in a graphing program, so that I can substitute in the stroke, rod length, degrees, and rpm (I haven't gotten to completely check it though). How does this help to build a better engine?
I'm not sure if it helps much. If you pick a reasonable Average Piston Speed (RPM * STROKE/6) which has worked for engines of the type and cost you plan to build, you'll come up with a max rpm.

5000 ft/min can be used if you have light pistons and strong rods/crank. That would give you 10,000 rpm for a 3 inch stroke and 7500 for a 4 inch stroke.

4500 ft/min would be my choice unless I was very wealthy. That still allows 7200 for a 383 SBC. As was mentioned, heads are probably going to be more of a limiting factor in your engine build than piston speed, unless you build Cup, PS, F1 or similar engines.
Old Mar 6, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Re: Piston Speed

Well if you want add in how the induction system will work with the bottom end relative to piston speed.... My "good buudy" Erik and I had a discussion on the Ford Forums about this.

CSA x Ft/sec = (Bore x Bore x Stroke x .7854) x (RPM/360)

CSA x Ft/sec = (Bore x Bore) x (Piston Speed/60)

Either one of those forumlas will help you solve for the max speed you want to turn the motor with a given setup. Well as long as you have a ft/sec barrier for the average intake port velocity. I use 330 ft/sec for a really good 23° head.

Bret
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