Piston oil holes
Piston oil holes
I was wondering if anyone's ever recevied a set of forged pistons in which the valve-reliefs cause the bottom/inside of the piston to cover the oil-holes drilled in the oil ring groove?
Wierd part is that it's only 2 of the holes that are problematic, and for the most part, they did break through to the piston innerds... only 1 piston seems like the aluminum bent out a bit, instead of drilling out.
The other problem is that 6 of the pistons are perfect, and one has 2 raised bumps where the holes should be... and the last one looks like it was "close". The holes are there, but one has a "cling-on" or "hang nail" situation going on. I sure as hell don't wanta install a piston that might shed a metal flake that size (probably 2 mm by 1mm oval).
1) Is it safe to CAREFULLY shave the flake out? Any reccomendations on tools? (should I use a small drill bit and do it by hand?)
2) Would 6 oil ring holes, and 2 non-holes be acceptable in a piston for high-performance use? I don't like the idea, but I'm also hesitant to try and drill on my coated, foreged, Wiseco 18/23* pistons.
Anyone seen this before? I can't imagine I just "happened" to be the first.
Wierd part is that it's only 2 of the holes that are problematic, and for the most part, they did break through to the piston innerds... only 1 piston seems like the aluminum bent out a bit, instead of drilling out.
The other problem is that 6 of the pistons are perfect, and one has 2 raised bumps where the holes should be... and the last one looks like it was "close". The holes are there, but one has a "cling-on" or "hang nail" situation going on. I sure as hell don't wanta install a piston that might shed a metal flake that size (probably 2 mm by 1mm oval).
1) Is it safe to CAREFULLY shave the flake out? Any reccomendations on tools? (should I use a small drill bit and do it by hand?)

2) Would 6 oil ring holes, and 2 non-holes be acceptable in a piston for high-performance use? I don't like the idea, but I'm also hesitant to try and drill on my coated, foreged, Wiseco 18/23* pistons.

Anyone seen this before? I can't imagine I just "happened" to be the first.
From your description, the drill didn't quite break thru (raised bumps), or wasn't quite sharp enough and it pushed out the metal. The hangnail is a typical drill burr, especially from a dull drill bit.
My observation is that someone didn't check/inspect and deburr the pistons properly during manufacture. Since we are in the precision machining business (not pistons!), I'm surprised at the sloppy work by Wiseco. Sure CNC machines are nice, but things still need checking with the Mk I eyeball.
If you bought the pistons complete with coating from Wiseco, you might contact them first and question them. They should rework the holes for your gratis. If it were our parts, we would pay shipping both ways. If they were coated after Wiseco sold them, that's probably not an option.
To do it myself, I would use a new drill bit turned by hand, maybe in a small chuck removed from a hand drill, to remove the burrs and finish the holes. Try number size or fractional or metric drills to get the correct size. There's probably no coating in the ring grooves anyway, and coating on those oil holes isn't important.
It's probably better that the drill didn't quite break thru rather than go too far thru and hit the valve relief area!
My observation is that someone didn't check/inspect and deburr the pistons properly during manufacture. Since we are in the precision machining business (not pistons!), I'm surprised at the sloppy work by Wiseco. Sure CNC machines are nice, but things still need checking with the Mk I eyeball.
If you bought the pistons complete with coating from Wiseco, you might contact them first and question them. They should rework the holes for your gratis. If it were our parts, we would pay shipping both ways. If they were coated after Wiseco sold them, that's probably not an option.
To do it myself, I would use a new drill bit turned by hand, maybe in a small chuck removed from a hand drill, to remove the burrs and finish the holes. Try number size or fractional or metric drills to get the correct size. There's probably no coating in the ring grooves anyway, and coating on those oil holes isn't important.
It's probably better that the drill didn't quite break thru rather than go too far thru and hit the valve relief area!
Originally posted by OldSStroker
From your description, the drill didn't quite break thru (raised bumps), or wasn't quite sharp enough and it pushed out the metal. The hangnail is a typical drill burr, especially from a dull drill bit.
From your description, the drill didn't quite break thru (raised bumps), or wasn't quite sharp enough and it pushed out the metal. The hangnail is a typical drill burr, especially from a dull drill bit.
My observation is that someone didn't check/inspect and deburr the pistons properly during manufacture. Since we are in the precision machining business (not pistons!), I'm surprised at the sloppy work by Wiseco. Sure CNC machines are nice, but things still need checking with the Mk I eyeball.
If you bought the pistons complete with coating from Wiseco, you might contact them first and question them. They should rework the holes for your gratis. If it were our parts, we would pay shipping both ways. If they were coated after Wiseco sold them, that's probably not an option.
To do it myself, I would use a new drill bit turned by hand, maybe in a small chuck removed from a hand drill, to remove the burrs and finish the holes. Try number size or fractional or metric drills to get the correct size. There's probably no coating in the ring grooves anyway, and coating on those oil holes isn't important.
It's probably better that the drill didn't quite break thru rather than go too far thru and hit the valve relief area!
Thanks for the feedback, I feel a little better about trying this if I have to.
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