A project that Dennis at AirFlowDevelopment is working on.... I did a cam for the setup and from what I hear it's the first use of a LS motor in a dragster!

Thread on it here: http://www.hardcorels1.com/vbulletin...read.php?t=933

"Ed had requested that I post some pictures of a project I am working on (Ed, If this is not where you want it...please move it!). I have been told (although I hardly cannot believe it!) that this is the first running, working S/C dragster that is LSx powered. Currently it is powered using a stock LQ4 SB. Of course some head games have been played. And....it is completely fueled by E85.

The purpose of this operation is to provide a cost effective nearly maintenance free COMPLETE racing package that is cost effective to build AND race. S/G roadster and Top Sportsman versions are in the works as we speak. Along with a 440 LSx BRE shortblock w/ AFD's Trinity Dart or L92 package for the Digger.

Some pics follow. Video is coming.

http://www.afdracing.com/pmyers/IMG_0293.jpg
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I would like to thank the following. Without them this would not be possible.

John Meaney...Without his electronics and willingness/knowledge of sportsman racing, it would have been nearly impossible to provide the resources necessary in a user friendly complete package. Truly Mr. BIG!

Wayne Myers...As no other chassis manufacturer was up to the task to retrofit the LSx motor. Wayne stepped up to the plate. Known throughout Division 1 for his ability to make "anything" work, without him we would be staring at a pile of parts.

Bret Bauer...I have worked with Bret on some past projects. His ability to adapt is second to none. When I presented this project to Bret I asked for C/FIA power BUT the valvetrain had to be cotton soft. These cars are abused! Any possibility to remove the daunting tasks of checking lash, springs, Pushrods... We needed to make this easy and Bret did just that! Providing a proprietary Hydraulic roller for the task.

Patrick Myers...Thank you for letting my idea become reality!

Dennis"

Dennis called me yesterday and told me I gotta fix the cam in that thing.....

Then said J/K the motor is a animal. He says it accelerates harder than anything he's seen on a chassis dyno. Something like under 2 sec pulls at WOT from stall to limiter with the 4000lbs inertia setting on a Mustang. It made over 400rwhp on a stingy Mustang dyno which normally puts a standard LS1 car at around 235rwhp. This is all thru a PG, 32" slicks and a BIG converter. I guess they were going to try and run the thing today if the weather was good, but who knows if the tracks in PA will have any stick with this cold up here.

Guessing on a standard dynojet the motor would make 455rwhp, not bad for VJed heads and single plane and cam/spring setup.

Bret

 

Thats pretty cool, let us know what it runs.

Chassis dyno seems lik a waste of time on that type of car

 

I want to pilot that thing.

 

How else are you going to do a baseline a/f curve and get the timing close? It's really not about the RWHP numbers as much as getting it dialed in.

Hopefully I'll get to go see it run next year sometime, and see some videos of it before hand!

Bret

 

Pretty cool!

 

You guys forgot something on that dragster


WINGS!


That thing is gonna FLY, have you weighed it yet Bret? Or do you know the weight? 400RWHP on a Mustang dyno through 32 inch slicks and a glide, I can dig it.


You would have thought this would have evolved sooner...I have been watching for this to happen around here in a roadster or rear engine car.....not yet. WOnder why? There has to be a hiccup as to why, is it the trans?

All Aluminum small block with 15*heads, it's a no brainer.

We need track vids!

I want to see one in a roadster chassis with EFI and a procharger...now THAT would be cool!

Could you Imagine the W2W setup in the old Casper Camaro that went in the 6's in a roadster chassis..WOW


David

 

I haven't heard the weight but I'm guessing 1700-2000lbs.

Bret

 

1625

 

Dennis, remember when we had that discussion about my car running 10.90's?

Well the car weighs 3800lbs with driver, makes 463RWHP through a 4L60E and a 9 inch rear on pumpgas and 325/50 drag radials

1st and only time to the 1/4 mile it ran 11.25@120, 1.58 60ft.

I think I can make a 10.99 when I figure the car out.

Thanks for the motivation!

David

 

Dave,
I am glad I provided motivation!!!

on another note...a S/G roadster project is already underway...

http://www.afdracing.com/pmyers/IMG_0270.jpg

I think this lsx deal has drawn more attention than SEMA this week! Patrick's car will be testing Sat. & Sun @ the grove....we wish him the best! Transbrake & hit testing went very well today...time will tell what bugs we have to work out.

Thanks
Dennis

 

That looks pretty nice. Couple questions...

Why did they choose to go with a solid chassis? Most modern chassis shops are churning out 4-links now and they hook like stink without the shock to the gear. Just wondering..

Also, are the tech guys going to allow it to get by with that much rubber line (in leu of braided stainless)? I thought the rule was no more than 12 inches total..

I've thought about doing this before myself. I've got access to a chassis builder who puts together 4-link design copies of Undercover 220" rails. I've often thought that a nearly bone stock LS1 (complete with electronics) would be a braket killer, but have never been motivated enough to carry it out. Usually those guys want to run 500+ inch motors and be at LEAST 2 seconds potential under their dial-in so they can leave last.

I will be interested to see what it does though

Dave C.

 

umm... the easiest way I can say is...we are running S/C which....is Super Comp ....no Dial 8.90 Index.

If Parker line and fittings are not allowed..95% of all the car's would be disco'd....Stainless braid is for street cars...and super pro's

In fact... I don't think I have worked on a S/C car that has had anything but? Or maybe AeroQuip Nylon coated?

Run the numbers...4-link to solid...you will ask a different question!

maybe things are different in your division? This project is being supported by our local and divisional NHRA reps.

Thanks
Dennis

 

Kind of makes me chuckle to see the stock oil cap on the valve cover. All those custom, one off parts, and the good 'ole GM stock plastic oil cap. Not knocking, just makes me laugh, that's all. Awesome looking ride. Are the coil packs stock?

 

Erm, now i do alot of crazy things, but um, wheres the damper.

http://www.afdracing.com/pmyers/IMG_0295.jpg

 

Wow! Great project. I thought seriously about something similar to this but the time and money thing got in the way.

Rich