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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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Re: LS7 potential

Guys, please don't use my thread as a chat room. Any info on the LS7 would be appreciated.

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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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Thats all this forum is really.... we turn these threads into random **** over here that ends up being usefull....

The new Dart LS heads have the same style double quench chamber as the LS7's.

http://www.mofbody.com/Floyd/DSCN1153.JPG

Same basic plug location as a stock LS.... but moving it close to the center of the bore al la anything Kaase gets his hands on is a GREAT idea.

Bret
Old Oct 8, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny McLain
Again, I honestly think his new headers are pretty good and they are more than just headers as it goes all the way back to the mufflers. But, how much do you gain from them?
I've personally seen gains of at least 20rwhp and 30rwtq on 3 of my friends' cars with the sole addition of the LG Motorsports LT Headers on Vettes and F-bodies.

Those who are knocking Lou for starting his business must not understand how it is when you first start your own business. For instance: I witnessed Thunder Racing's upcoming from day 1. Thunder Racing was the joke of Baton Rouge when they first started: Slow cars, personnel with a lack of knowledge. Years later, they have turned into a national competitor.

Lou Gigliotti has more than proved himself as a sales competitor AND a formidable driver in this year's Speed World Challenge. If you don't understand, watch Speedvision during the World Challenge or watch some of the in-car videos during the races on LG Motorsports' website.

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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny McLain
You should have heard all the stuff going on 6-7 years ago about LGM and you'd have a better idea of what I'm talking about.

Bought a brand new 97 SS and with 200 miles on it, took it to Lou's shop and paid almost $1,000.00 for the best magic beans money could buy. All the hot stuff like power programmer, LE1 smooth bellows, throttle body widget, air filter, 160 thermo, skip shift eliminator, etc. Had a turbo Supra and a twin turbo VR4 just prior and bolt on’s worked well on both cars, so I bit the hook.

Was told I’d pick up 30-35 hp (keep in mind he had his own dyno back then) and when I dynoed the car at another shop……….. lost 3 hp. Needless to say I’m not on the best of terms with Lou but to his credit, I’ve seen him get better.

Still don’t trust his before and after power gains with just headers. Think his headers are pretty good and I’m sure there is some there, it’s just how much is the question.

denny,

I am surprised at you. that 35 hp packge that you did 8 years ago had a BORLA cat back cold air, underdirve pulley plus the other things that you mentioned.

You also know that you picked up time at the drag strip.

You also know how much we all have learned and you probably also know that the computers were probably the worst culprit when it came to inconsistant hp numbers.

You probably know by now that a dyno number, WITHOUT AN EDIT TUNE, will vary depending on the IAT and water temp and other factors. Back then without any edit software, NO ONE could predict what the computer would do to the timing and fuel on a hot Texas. The wide variations in dyno all over the country was mostly due to these factors.

8 Years ago as we do now, we ALWAYS post up any changes like "Belts off" or other things.

We had one customer who just wanted a dyno sheet over 500rwhp and we could only muster 495 out of an LS6 so he asked us to help him get the extra 5 hp for a dyno sheet he could "Frame". that was it.

LG Motorsports is the ONLY tuner that I know of that has taken one of their packges to another dyno to prove the numbers.

In fact Tommy T who's Corvette J-Rod drove at the Clash shootout to a win over some of the best in the NE, got roughly 474 rwhp on our dyno. There were those who didn't believe it, so I drove the car to another shop here in Dallas and pulled 3 pulls right off the highway and hit within 1 horsepower of our dyno. Of course that was AFTER LS1 edit so we could control the PCM a little better. (name one tuner that has done that on their own?)
You also know that we focused very hard on our LS1 engine packages, cams and headers. We have been in the Camaro/Corvette business for 17 years now, and we have a reputation built on quality and performance with innovative excelence.

Our LG Pro Long Tube Corvette headers and our G5X-3 cam make power in every part of the country. East Coast supercharging gets 428-430 rwhp with ease on this cam only package with our LG headers.


So to say I am a little disapointed to hear what you are saying is an understatement.
You disparraged LGM on the word of a dyno operator who was trying to get your business away from LGM. And ironically that company (plus many others) are out of business now. What was he going to say, "LGM does a good job, stick with them."?

No worries Denny, In 100 years we will all be fertilizer anyway.

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Ok, back on topic,

The new Z06 engine is a great engine and we are very happy that Chevy went the extra mile with it.

We also feel that they deliberately killed the low end horsepower to avoid having some Z06 owners wife or mother take the car and Spin out on an off ramp.

Our headers picked up big torque numbers from the instant the pedal was floored. We have done 2 cars so far, and we have 5 sets of our LS7 headers out already to Z06 owners. Even Calloway got a set, and Lingenfelter gets our LS6 and LS2 Headers for the Corvette. (I guess they don't know Denny)

At any rate, we will have another C6-Z06 in here this week. Two of them hit over 484 rwhp with 475rwtq, with oneof them hitting the magic 490rwhp.

They baseline anywhere from 435rwhp to 453 rwhp. they are very temp sensitive so until edit tuning, the numbers will vary.

Thanks
Lou Gigliotti LGM
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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Damn, it's been a while since YOU posted here!!
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Here is the LINGENFELTER C6 ZO6.....700+ TWIN TURBO.....LS7..

http://www.lingenfelter.com/pack_cor_c6_427.htm
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Re: LS7 potential

Originally Posted by Fast Caddie
Guys, please don't use my thread as a chat room. Any info on the LS7 would be appreciated.

Thanks
plz correct me if im wrong....but i think but the LS7 is a bored and stroked 350 LS1...im not shure on the specs on the bore and stroke ext. thats about all i know and the LS7 is the platform that the C6-R has in it
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Lou:
Silly question. Whats with the quarter turns on the corvette windshield. That and a few other things I saw in some pictures had me confused.



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Z06:
Once the factory restrictions are eliminated- I dont believe there is much room for growth without solid rollers.
They are essentially out of RPM. Maybe a bit more lift- but you really cant get any more power out through revs.
Old Oct 15, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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Re: LS7 potential

Originally Posted by MotorCityNova572
Here is the LINGENFELTER C6 ZO6.....700+ TWIN TURBO.....LS7..

http://www.lingenfelter.com/pack_cor_c6_427.htm
No, that is a regular LS2 C6 with a LPE turbo engine and bodykit.
Old Oct 15, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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The clocks just turned over the 300 mile mark in mine.

My impressions thus far...

1. Exhaust note is very weak IMO. Can't wait for Corsa to get their setup to the market!

2. Car is tighter than C5 Z06. Less wind noise, injector noise, etc... cabin is better sealed acoustically. Maybe that's why the exhaust sounds so weak. But to me, it's a little weak from outside the car as well.

3. Car has flatter more stable handling. I haven't really had a chance to push it yet but what little bit of higher speed conering I have done shows some obvious improvements over the C5 Z06. Handles on par with my 02' with Bilsteins.

4. The new car produces prodigious amounts of torque. Get her aimed straight before you puch it. <~~ you'll look like this afterwards.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=105876

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AdioSS
No, that is a regular LS2 C6 with a LPE turbo engine and bodykit.
opps. my bad...i was a lil off track... your right it is a reg. C6 with a body kit...
Old Oct 15, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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LS7 eye candy

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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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Anyone have any good track times yet? With some good tires.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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Did anyone see that Discovery Channel episode about Team Corvette?

They showed the conversion process of the C6-R, and some racing footage
of LeMans, etc?

They entered two Vettes into the race. The cars were so fast that they
were dominating the entire field. Even when the rear brake rotor blew apart,
or they needed to repair a rear quarter and some driveline parts (from getting
tagged), they still managed a 2nd and 3rd place finish.

I think it was Austin Martin, or Jaguar that barely pulled out the win?
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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titanium rods.... Throw on a 200 shot and call it a day. These things sound like they are built to perfection.

I read the August edition of Chevy Super Sport and they had an awesome detail read about the engine assembly process.



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