Thanks Chuck!

 

Not a problem. What's new with your motor Jim?

Later
Chuck

 

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...5&pagenumber=6

 

Man, what's the deal with all that crap? I thought Mark seemed to be an ok guy to deal with? Do you feel you have been screwed, or is he taking care of all that stuff?

What did the motor make on the dyno after they got the ignition issues resolved? And are you running the cam sync wet or dry? MSD doesn't like them run wet, which is why I went to the belt drive...

Later
Chuck

 

The $4,000 payment I sent last December should have covered the outstanding labor bill at B&B (according to Brian the owner, who should know), all the ignition parts (especially since I didn't get everything I apparently paid for), and the shipping. Instead, Mark said that money had been used up, quoted me a new labor bill (with no invoice), plus shipping, and stuck me for a $2,500 "consultation fee" last minute because he didn't feel he was appreciated enough after doing almost nothing for a year. If I didn't pay, he said he'd auction off my engine and deduct $12,100 for his time.

Then after I paid to get him to release control of the engine with B&B, it took him a month and a half to get the parts that weren't at the shop over to them to put in the crate with the engine, which only benefitted him. Not only that, but I didn't receive all the new ignition parts I paid for, didn't even get back all the stuff I'd sent down, and he even swapped a steel flywheel Street Twin for my aluminum version...

Yeah, I got screwed. And it appears that several other people have also.

They never were resolved. Brian said recently that he thought it was only an issue with the Opti-spark. Mark wanted to go coil per cylinder, according to Brian, and sold me on the idea... except that it never got completed, and Mark just kept stringing me along for several months with promises that it was almost done and would be back in the dyno cell soon.

The engine as it arrived is almost untouched from the point at which it was in the dyno cell in April of '02. Except for accumulating a few parts, Mark accomplished almost nothing with it in over a year, and Brian says he was only in twice during that time.

The cam sync I have is their Digital CPC stub which installs in the distributor hole, so it's wet and intended to be run wet.

I'm sure that could be a problem with a sensor mounted in the stock front cover, but that never got completed either. That's probably why Marc (can't remember his alias) isn't using that setup any longer either.

 

Wow, that totally sucks. So what are you stuck with to figure out? Let me know if I can be of any service....

Later
Chuck

 

Thanks Chuck. I got an MSD Digital CPC stub, which wasn't installed. I only got a wheel for an MSD crank trigger (no sensor, no bracket, etc.), so I'll have to buy the complete kit if I'm going that route, which at this point makes sense because my SEFI-8LO was updated. I got an eDist module, and a harness in an unknown state. There is some documentation, but I haven't looked through it to see what it goes to. I'm pretty sure I didn't get my SEFI-8LO manual back, and I don't think the documentation goes with the eDist either.

I need to figure out what the status of the harness is, if possible, and see if it can be used. I don't know what was done to it or if it's even in a useable configuration. The rest of the stuff needs to be installed, after I get a crank trigger kit. BTW, do you know offhand which part number I need to work with my ATI balancer? It seems like my balancer is sticking out pretty far from the front cover. I'm not even sure if it was even bolted on or if it's just stuck on the snout of the crank, to be perfectly honest.

Sorry, new baby in the house (born Tuesday) and things have been a little hectic even without all the problems with my engine.

 

hehe, congrats

I thought the stub was missing though? Just answer this, do you have any form of cam sync installed on the motor currently? If not installed, do you have what you need (ie, the distributor stub)? If you wanted to go the belt drive route I could help you out with that.

Which harness is missing? There is a harness that comes with the Fast (that does work on an LT1, you just have to change the plugs for the TPS and IAT), and then there is all the wiring that comes with the Edist. What exactly is missing?

]Yeah, just measure to see what size your balancer is, then order the crank trigger kit that is a step larger than your balancer. I believe mine is a 7 or 7.500" balancer with an 8" crank trigger wheel.

As for the ATI sticking out... yes, that is the first thing we noticed with mine after installing it. I believe they stick out to clear the opti spark. You obviously want to check and make sure everything is properly torqued, but be assured it does stick out a little bit.


How about you ship that thing to Houston and I whip it into shape for you? I'm busy for the next month trying to get my car, and assist with getting 3 other cars ready for the Thunder shootout, but once that is over I should have the time to get everything straightend out on yours, put it on the dyno, and get it to where you can finally put it into the FD3 Let me know if that is of any interest to you.

Later
Chuck

 

Thanks!

I have a new MSD Digital CPC cam stub, not installed on the engine, but I'm always open to suggestions.

I have the SEFI-8LO harness which doesn't seem to have been touched from what I could tell, and I have an eDist harness that came from NE Dyno that Mark said was wired incorrectly. I don't know if Mark "rewired" it as he said he was going to, or if it's still in the same state as delivered, or if either state works.

Thanks, guess that should have been pretty easy to figure out.

OK, that makes sense and it may just look odd without the Opti in place. Here's a picture...
http://www.rx7club.com/forum/attachm...postid=2207471

Sounds interesting, especially since I still have the crate here. Send me an e-mail, if you would, and let's discuss it further.

Thanks!

 

K, sent ya mail...

BTW. Your ATI looks about like what mine looks like. So I wouldn't worry about it.

Later
Chuck

 

Boy do I need to talk to you guys!

I'm in the process of installing an MSD crank trigger and a sequential Speed Pro unit. This cam sensor thing is the only thing I am still wandering about, what did ya'll end up doing about this?
I too am going to run the individual coilpack setup, so I guess that means I need the E Dist too?

Its cool to see some of you are from Houston too, maybe we can get together sometime!

thanks,
Randy

 

What about using the Accel Dual-sync distributor. Does anyone know if that will fit under the cowl area????

--Sean

 

Cam sensors that mount in the front of the timing chain cover have proven to be nothing but a head ache. I would call up msd and get the sensor that mounts in the rear of the motor(halo-effect).
If you need a edis box, coils, or harness for everything I have a buddy that is selling all his stuff. drop me an email
sleeperz@hotmail.com

 

I have a used edist box, and 8 coils only 600 miles of use for sale if anyone is interested.

The accell dual sync distributor will fit under the cowl and it will work, but you need to be runing a FAST or DFI system.

Rob
www.nedyno.com
www.dynotune.org

 

I'm looking for a deal on an EDist box if it's been used carefully...

FAST is coming out with a plug'n play crank relay that I will use when it comes out in March.

prostockjohn@hotmail.com