DCR with E85?
Re: DCR with E85?
Originally Posted by markinkc69z
I'm excited by it.
Me too. It's going to let me do a two-step process:
1) This coming "down" season (Yeah. I know... we're not done with THIS one yet.), build the engine for gasoline, with ~10.5 static compression.
2) The following down season, build an entirely new fuel system, seperate from the stock one, add an X-Trim and control the whole thing with FAST.
Re: DCR with E85?
Originally Posted by LameRandomName
Me too. It's going to let me do a two-step process:
1) This coming "down" season (Yeah. I know... we're not done with THIS one yet.), build the engine for gasoline, with ~10.5 static compression.
2) The following down season, build an entirely new fuel system, seperate from the stock one, add an X-Trim and control the whole thing with FAST.
1) This coming "down" season (Yeah. I know... we're not done with THIS one yet.), build the engine for gasoline, with ~10.5 static compression.
2) The following down season, build an entirely new fuel system, seperate from the stock one, add an X-Trim and control the whole thing with FAST.
I'm looking at doing this with my 96 impala SS and much later with my 91 caprice. I need to find out what parts in the fuel system that I'll need to change...
Re: DCR with E85?
Originally Posted by Injuneer
From the iowacorn.org (pro-ethanol) website:
You also need to keep in mind that for high performance uses, you need to know the "motor" octane. What is posted above is the typical (research + motor)/2 octane number that you see on the local gas pump.
You also need to keep in mind that for high performance uses, you need to know the "motor" octane. What is posted above is the typical (research + motor)/2 octane number that you see on the local gas pump.
Re: DCR with E85?
Originally Posted by blkchevyz
anyone know what air fuel ratio you would want to shoot for?
Fuel AFRst
E85 stoich 9.765
E85 Max power rich 6.975
E85 Max power lean 8.4687
Originally Posted by markinkc69z
Fuel injectors should be sized for approx 20% more volume.
According to www.e85fuel.com its 105 octane and that's what we have up here. 1 station in a major metropolitan area and it sells for about the price of 87.
Keep in mind it is not 85% ethanol like you may think, the ethanol itseld is denatured 3-4% with gasoline so you can't drink it. The denatured ethanol then has the gasoline blended into it.
I'm excited by it.
According to www.e85fuel.com its 105 octane and that's what we have up here. 1 station in a major metropolitan area and it sells for about the price of 87.
Keep in mind it is not 85% ethanol like you may think, the ethanol itseld is denatured 3-4% with gasoline so you can't drink it. The denatured ethanol then has the gasoline blended into it.
I'm excited by it.
Re: DCR with E85?
Originally Posted by AdioSS
What vehicle are you starting with?
I'm looking at doing this with my 96 impala SS and much later with my 91 caprice. I need to find out what parts in the fuel system that I'll need to change...
I'm looking at doing this with my 96 impala SS and much later with my 91 caprice. I need to find out what parts in the fuel system that I'll need to change...
My 95 Caprice.
Dragonslayer, Howards PM rods, Mahle pistons and Trick Flows by Lloyd.
On the fuel system I have decided that the simplest thing is to just put a cell in the trunk and running new lines up front.
I was thinking of this pump with this regulator
I am also considering building a kind of odd intake manifold. Which reminds me... There's a question I need to ask in the advanced forum.
Re: DCR with E85?
Originally Posted by AdioSS
I betcha you could run factory hypereutectic pistons up to 600hp with no problems.
I wouldn't. The issue with hypers is their propensity to shatter when stressed. Forged pistons just deform.
I mean sure, that's oversimplified, but that basic point is accurate.
Re: DCR with E85?
Originally Posted by LameRandomName
I guess I really just want to talk to someone who has actually ran one that had some high volume fuel demand. I'm a skeptic I guess.
Re: DCR with E85?
Anyone have an opinion on what the max DCR you could run on 104, 110, etc would be?
If 9.0:1 is the limit for 93 octane...
A fraction comparison would be:
9.0:1 = 93
10.0:1 = 104
10.6:1 = 110
However, I have a hunch it is way more complicated than that
.
Ryan
If 9.0:1 is the limit for 93 octane...
A fraction comparison would be:
9.0:1 = 93
10.0:1 = 104
10.6:1 = 110
However, I have a hunch it is way more complicated than that
. Ryan
Last edited by 96speed; Mar 8, 2006 at 11:42 AM.
Re: DCR with E85?
E85 has 72 percent of the energy content by volume, of
gasoline.
To compare price, multiply the price of E85 by 1.39
and compare to gasoline.
Others have written that even non-FlexFuel
cars can run 20 30 40 percent E85.
in other fuel news,
the federal requirement that RFG contain uxygen,
is being dropped, effective May 6.
Note, some MTBE could still be used in RFG gas,
after May 6. but I thik it will soon be either,
less or none, rather quickly.
gasoline.
To compare price, multiply the price of E85 by 1.39
and compare to gasoline.
Others have written that even non-FlexFuel
cars can run 20 30 40 percent E85.
in other fuel news,
the federal requirement that RFG contain uxygen,
is being dropped, effective May 6.
Note, some MTBE could still be used in RFG gas,
after May 6. but I thik it will soon be either,
less or none, rather quickly.
Re: DCR with E85?
Originally Posted by 96speed
Anyone have an opinion on what the max DCR you could run on 104, 110, etc would be?
If 9.0:1 is the limit for 93 octane...
A fraction comparison would be:
9.0:1 = 93
10.0:1 = 104
10.6:1 = 110
However, I have a hunch it is way more complicated than that
.
Ryan
If 9.0:1 is the limit for 93 octane...
A fraction comparison would be:
9.0:1 = 93
10.0:1 = 104
10.6:1 = 110
However, I have a hunch it is way more complicated than that
. Ryan
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