90 degree elbow & single plane intakes
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Re: 90 degree elbow & single plane intakes
So is there an elbow that the we could bolt up the oe style TB...i have pic's in mags but i can't find anything on line?????
With this fit under the stock hood..
thx
With this fit under the stock hood..
thx
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Re: 90 degree elbow & single plane intakes
Go to www.mrgasket.com. Download the Accel/DFI Catalog. They show a picture and p/n for an elbow for use with an TPI Style Throttle Body (up to 58mm I believe). But I think it has been discontinued....not sure though.
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Re: 90 degree elbow & single plane intakes
That accel part that mates up to the stock lt1 style throttle body is no longer in production. I tried to find one for the longest time, and no one has one, or isnt willing to sell theirs.
My comments about the ls1/lt1 style. Simple fact that at least you are dealing with a single bore TB like the elbows require. You would need to widen the elbow to properly match something like a LT1 throttle body. Either way you are going to custom fab adapter plates, but IMO the ls1 is way less work.
My original comment dealt with making the throttle body verticle, but either verticle or horizontal, i think the ls1 style is the way to go on a budget. Off a budget you can make an accufab unit work too, buit need to do some splicing and changing things in the wiring harness, and fab a throttle attachment setup.
My comments about the ls1/lt1 style. Simple fact that at least you are dealing with a single bore TB like the elbows require. You would need to widen the elbow to properly match something like a LT1 throttle body. Either way you are going to custom fab adapter plates, but IMO the ls1 is way less work.
My original comment dealt with making the throttle body verticle, but either verticle or horizontal, i think the ls1 style is the way to go on a budget. Off a budget you can make an accufab unit work too, buit need to do some splicing and changing things in the wiring harness, and fab a throttle attachment setup.
Last edited by atljar; Oct 14, 2004 at 02:07 AM.
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Re: 90 degree elbow & single plane intakes
Originally Posted by Schurters LT1
So where or how do you hook up the iac??, how much$$$$ are we talking here.
thx
thx
http://www.wilsonmanifolds.com/shop/media/461101.jpg
http://www.wilsonmanifolds.com/shop/media/471065.jpg
The 90mm TB is $300 and the Elbow is $210, around the price for the Accufab TB. (FIXED THE PRICES WHEW)
LS1 90mm TB's are closer to $450 or so.
Bret
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Re: 90 degree elbow & single plane intakes
Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
IAC you have to make a adaptor plate for and plumb that to the manifold somehow.
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Re: 90 degree elbow & single plane intakes
Heres a few pics of IAC. Sorry nothing up close.
http://home.cinci.rr.com/atljar/New%...r/PICT0103.JPG
http://home.cinci.rr.com/atljar/New%...r/PICT0104.JPG
Its 3rd gen/93 style (big 4 pin square). You can splice right into the standard 4th gen harness and it will work.
http://home.cinci.rr.com/atljar/New%...r/PICT0103.JPG
http://home.cinci.rr.com/atljar/New%...r/PICT0104.JPG
Its 3rd gen/93 style (big 4 pin square). You can splice right into the standard 4th gen harness and it will work.
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Re: 90 degree elbow & single plane intakes
Originally Posted by atljar
That accel part that mates up to the stock lt1 style throttle body is no longer in production. I tried to find one for the longest time, and no one has one, or isnt willing to sell theirs.
Accel 2005 Catalog
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Re: 90 degree elbow & single plane intakes
Just did a LT1 conversion on one of those Accel DFI single plane intakes (PN 74139) Ok piece not a Edelbrock casting for sure (typical dirty Holley aluminum) it worked ok, but the center bolt holes are a typical PITA to get to change over to a LT1.
That Accel Elbow doesn't look like it's going to flow gangbusters, but it's pretty low and uses a TPI/LT1 style TB.
Bret
That Accel Elbow doesn't look like it's going to flow gangbusters, but it's pretty low and uses a TPI/LT1 style TB.
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Re: 90 degree elbow & single plane intakes
Bret-
You were actually able to convert the intake to lt1 head pattern?
I wanted to do it that way on mine, but there was no way i could get the runners to not be in the way of the intake bolts without really fidgiting with them to get them in there. Did you end up grinding away some of the exterior casting or...?
On mine i just bit the bullet, had the old intake bolt holes in the head welded up and driled and tapped the SBC style into them. Really wasnt the ideal way, but it works.
You were actually able to convert the intake to lt1 head pattern?
I wanted to do it that way on mine, but there was no way i could get the runners to not be in the way of the intake bolts without really fidgiting with them to get them in there. Did you end up grinding away some of the exterior casting or...?
On mine i just bit the bullet, had the old intake bolt holes in the head welded up and driled and tapped the SBC style into them. Really wasnt the ideal way, but it works.
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Re: 90 degree elbow & single plane intakes
Originally Posted by atljar
Bret-
You were actually able to convert the intake to lt1 head pattern?
I wanted to do it that way on mine, but there was no way i could get the runners to not be in the way of the intake bolts without really fidgiting with them to get them in there. Did you end up grinding away some of the exterior casting or...?
On mine i just bit the bullet, had the old intake bolt holes in the head welded up and driled and tapped the SBC style into them. Really wasnt the ideal way, but it works.
You were actually able to convert the intake to lt1 head pattern?
I wanted to do it that way on mine, but there was no way i could get the runners to not be in the way of the intake bolts without really fidgiting with them to get them in there. Did you end up grinding away some of the exterior casting or...?
On mine i just bit the bullet, had the old intake bolt holes in the head welded up and driled and tapped the SBC style into them. Really wasnt the ideal way, but it works.
I saw the work in the shop. There was some creative machining, but it now looks like it was made for an LT1.
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