Yes, I know about the sales numbers but I think Mustang's "sedan based coupe" like proportions indicate that Ford had the right formula all along.

The 4th Gen was similar to the 3rd gen in that it was a Corvette like car... which tend to have a limited lifespan.

Pardon me, but don't you drive the least successful Camaro model ever,which was loosely based on the 3rd Gen?

Like I keep saying, the car that appeals to you may not be the best design proposal for Camaro. A complete redesign is a huge risk on an already successful and probably iconic design.

 

There are two Camaros currently sitting in my garage. They are more than just "loosely based on the 3rd gen" - they are 3rd gens.

The point being, I don't think GM would be too unhappy about selling 250,000 -300,000 F-cars annually again.

Whatever styling direction the the next Camaro takes - it will be a complete redesign, even if it retains some of the current car's styling elements.

 

I vote for a complete refresh, both interior and exterior.

The only thing "iconic" about the current Camaro is the name.

 

Hey let's not allow sales figures and general popularity of the 5G to cloud your judgement... I mean personal opinion far outweighs sales stats.

What was Guy saying in the other thread about the internet?

Oh yes, found it...

 

Either strategy could result in something amazing or horrid. Tighten the current one up a bit while lowering the beltline, and it could be a great looking car.

Since this one has sold so well, and a lot of its appeal is its looks, it makes sense to do a variation on the current one. Though you could also argue that you don't want the current styling to get old.

 

This is the 2010's, the market is extremely competitive with hundreds of models available. The only things that sell in the 250K-300K per year a vehicles with a lot of utility and practicality. Coupes are also not as popular as they were in the 80's. A sporty car that can sell 100K in the 2010's would be a miracle.

Any Camaro that can go neck and neck sales wise with the Mustang is a huge success.

Edit: I think a better question on which direction the Camaro should go is trunk vs. hatch.

 

Sure, those kinds of numbers are probably no longer possible. I was simply countering SSbaby's assertion on the 3rd gen that "their popularity sunk to unprecedented lows".

 

Yeah!

I love my hatchback 4th gen, and all of the utility that layout allows.

 

Actually, my assertion was that the 4th Gen (which was loosely based on the 3rd Gen) had sunk to unprecedented lows. Yes, I thought you owned a 4th Gen but I've since been corrected.

 

Even at the expense of body rigidity?

 

Actually, you asserted both.

I get it already. You think the 5th gen Camaro is absolute perfection, delivered by the hand of God himself, and no detail of it should ever be deviated from, for now and forever.

 

That's more of a Corvette type of car. I like it a lot, but it's not a pony car.

 

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...uction+figures

So in your "reality", the 1978-1979 and 1984 Camaros were "icons", right?

 

Different era. Therefore, you cannot compare today's 5G sales with those of the past if that is your point. It's all relative. You can't claim with any certainty that the 5G isn't a sales success. Time will prove either of us right or wrong as far as this model being iconic... but you are being too quick to judge, is all I was saying.

But carry on.

 

Yeah poor sentence structure but when you look at both of those models, the public had had enough of that type of car - and most low slung cars have a limited life.

No. I'm just not interested in some of the gospel bandied about by people hung out about weight and size. I do honestly believe that most people don't actually like small cars... but I digress.

In regards to the 5G, I love almost everything about this car. I'm not saying it's the best car in the world but I will say that it evokes pure emotion. My eyes pop out whenever I look at one in traffic. My pulse races. Not many GM cars stir as much emotion as this car. You know, the type of fanfare that is normally reserved for European exotics. An M3 would almost blend in with the traffic, in comparison. Just my humble opinion, of course.

Yes, I know your requirements are different but that doesn't mean the 6G will tick all your boxes either unless you base your purchasing decision purely on weight and size.

Of course you'd know that the 2nd Gen Camaro was annually the biggest selling model in its history. It was also about 500lbs heavier than the 3rd Gen. Like I said, weight and size is meaningless for some.

Btw, I just noticed you've added your own connotation to the definition of the term 'pony car' in your sig... just one important word you omited - relatively! I find that quite amusing.

It's all relative!