Hi
I have a 1990 camaro and somebody told me to cut out the bottom of the airbox and make a direct connection to the outside of the car for some added horsepower. I need to know from people with experience. Will this let water and heavy dirt through? Will it hurt the car at all?
thanks!!!

 

Ya i was thinkin about doing that the other day while working on my car but i didnt think it would be wise, im curious to know will this affect anything negativly as well...

 

You pansies...j/k, their shouldn't be any effect other then more HP at the top end of the track...That's why you have air filters.

 

heres how to do the Ram air system.
http://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/tech/ramair.shtml

 

the ram air coupled with k and ns and an air foil bring the engine to life the ram air alone on a 305 dynoed at 12hp and thats just with a fan in front of it imagine what it can do at 90mph and when you find out let me know my upshift sleeve is shot so i keep upshifting at highspeeds i cant enjoy it k and n,s disperse water so water isnt a problem and your air filter takes all the dirt no worries

 

Its not the ramming of the air making the HP increase, its the cooler air coming in...you have to be going alot faster than what most 3rd gens can do (closer to 200mph) for any affect of RAM AIR! Its simple to see, the air being sucked in by the downward stoke of the piston is greater what you can drive at, so RamAir is just a cold air intake. Is it worth do gut your airbox...yes. Are you ramming air in...no.

 

aron your an idiot it was dynoed at slp and dont tell me there dyno is off ill take a stock 305 camaro and a stock 305 camaro with ram air and see who pulls away at 55mph then tell me it dosent work

 

well I see you resort to name calling...congrats...just a little info on physics...you cant force slower air into a faster stream and make more of it. The air coming into a cylinder is a hell of alot faster than 55 MPH... you say what you think but facts are facts...Like I said, its not the ramming its the cooler air...

read on and learn

You must be one of these guys that thinks putting a "electric turbo" in thier intake makes power.

 

facts are facts and dyno is proof sorry buddy


you seem to be one of the guys who take it in the poop chute

 

and also thats the dumbest thing i ever heard ill race your stock camaro agianst any of the same with ram air for 25,000 and titles thats how confident i am and im backed by dyno sheets go buy a honda and get off this page

 

Not your buddy, lets get that clear.

Now can you show your mystical proof??? Can you link me to this so called dyno proof? I showed already that its a myth, you cant comprehend it so if you care to show me your proof I can probably break it down to your level and explain what you think is wrong.

 

I understand what youre saying but i have a question (this is do to the fact that i dont know jack about what your saying). The air intake setup on a normal camaro (i only know for camaro because thats what i own) Basically sets the filter over two closed boxes. The vacuum that exists in the engine when the heads open up to the intake has to suck the air in. Wouldnt it allow the vacuum to get air easier if the air was flowing in the direction that the vacuum was sucking from? The other issue that pops up in my head is basically what youre doing in an engine is when the heads open there is a vacuum that existed inside the engine. The air outside of the engine trys to equal out the vacuum and there for sucks air into the engine block (i know the term for that im just really tired and cant remember it). Anyways as the cylinder balances out to atmospheric pressure with the new air in it as it becomes closer and close to balanced the air flowing into the cylinder would slow down hence greater increasing the effect of "ram air". I think your point was that everything happens in an engine too fast with the opening and closeing of valves that the ram air has no effect but doesnt the faster streaming air have to amount so some gain and even if that gain is microscopic couldnt a microscopic gain on every stroke net a large net value of increased air intake.

Am i way off base with this one? Please explain how i am wrong. Also by your logic wouldnt a cold air intake and a ram air intake net the same gains??? Does anyone have a comparison test between the two?

 

I am sorry Lordmetal, Aron is right.

While I do not dout your gains, and I am about to do this mod ( maybe tomorrow ) There is no ram air effect.

The advantage is that the air is colder, colder air is dense and thus there is more O2 per ( lets say ) cubic inch. This is why you see gains.

We can do a home exsperiment to see why then there are gains ( as you say 50mph ) when it is warm out. First put your hand up to your mouth like you are about to yawn. Open your mouth wide and breath, as if you are fogging a mirror, the air is warm right? Now pucker your lips and blow as if threw a straw, cooler now hugh?

If you dont buy this then you should by my physics book, slightly used I will let it go cheap.

 

Not exaclty the same but similar the ram set up should have a slight advantage at higher speeds.

 

aron just go buy julys issue of gm high tech magazine its all printted in there