I was resently on a site (yearone) just browsing and clicked on a stroker kit and it said it was not emmisions legal. Is this true i thought it was completely legal to have a stroker kit but hey what do i know right! Help me out here thanks

 

I don't see why, the heads and cams are what will make you pass emissions or not.

 

I doubt that they are emissions legal, especially considering that every engine part needs to have a specific approval and review process to get a CARB exemption sticker.

So, if your ignition coil pack needs to be CARB certified, wouldnt a change that affects not only timing but fueling requirements need some kind of emissions recertification?

uh, yeh I'd think so. Not emissions Legal doesnt necessarily mean its a polluter though. IT just means you need to retune!

 

Just a little FYI. Absolutely NOTHING you add to your car to change it from stock is technically "street legal"....as I was told by a ******** cop at a car gathering one night.

To answer your question though, it probably is only emissions legal with certain other parts that would make it pass smog tests. Otherwise, it probably wouldn't do it and the company could be held liable if they didn't say it wasn't "street legal".

 

Well, us ******** cops do like to keep the public informed as to the laws.

 

Meh, not all of you are *********. Just this one was very adament about the fact that he could write us a ticket cuz we had aftermarket exhuast. Just one of those rookies that LOVES the abuse of power.

My dad's a corporal, I respect the line of work

 

I was just thinkin how they gunna know if you have a stroker kit or not would it affect the emmisions test?

 

not sure about there but here in CO they just put in the engine size of what your VIN says it should be. as long as you pass the sniffer test it shouldn't be too much of a problem. if you stay with a milder cam and get a good tune you should pass.

 

ok for starters there are dick head cops(i work with a lot of them)but on the other hand there are a lot of dick head people period...........anyways a stroker kit in itself is emission legal,just by increasing displacement wont change your emission out put .its when you go to a different set of heads and or cams stuff that changes it..

 

I know, I was just messin.

But the "rookie cop abusing his power" is correct.....altering factory equipment without CARB (or whatever your State uses) certification is 100% illegal.
So true......bad apples in every job field.

 

Yup, changing the bottom end is emissions legal, but when you get the testing done, if you tell them you changed it, they'll ask you what the engine size is and put that into consideration, if you tell them it's a 383, you will have stricter emissions cuz it pollutes less.

 

A couple things for clarity.
CARB stands for the "Californa Air Research Board" and only has authority in California. Although several other states have adopted their standard, you do not need to meet CARB cert. if you live outside of Cal. However the CARB standard is usually the toughest in the country so many manufactures print on their product that it is CARB cert. or "50 State Street Legal".
Generally there are three agencies which control what goes on your car and what you can do to it. The NHTSA(National Highway Traffic Safety Administration), the EPA(Environmental Protection Agency), and the State you live in. As long as the specific manufacture has cert. the parts with all of the above agencies they are perfectly legal to install on your car. These parts are almost always marked "50 State Street Legal".
Parts which have not been cert., which can be time consuming and expensive, are usually mark as illegal or "For Off Road use Only".
There is NO requirement that says you have to keep your car STOCK. Only that it meets the required standards.
Yearone obviously didn't go to the trouble to cert. these parts and that is way there are labled "not legal for street use".
So the next time you see your "cop buddy", you can tell him your car is 50 state street legal and you have the documentation to prove it.

 

CARB is only a California deal, this is true, but the term "50 State Street legal" is often misused by manufacturers/distributors and it may or may not be legal for the State someone is in. For example, if a "50 State legal" part does NOT have a CARB #, then it is not legal in Cali (for street use) and therefore is not actually 50 State legal.......

I would HIGHLY recommend that people check THEIR local laws, as every State is different and a blanket statement like that could be misleading to some.

Again, not entirely correct. In California, for example, there is a Vehicle Code section that specifically states you CANNOT alter your exhaust sytem in ANY WAY. Meaning if it is not a factory part for that specific year/make/model.....then it is technically illegal. I checked with numerous DA's and legal representitives and was informed that even putting on a Flowmaster muffler designed for that car (even if it was quieter then the stock muffler) would be a violation, without a CARB # of course. I wrote more then one of those tickets during my time & have heard every excuse/defense in the book during Court to try to get around it but none of them withstood.

I am not trying to be argumentative or start anything, just pointing out some of the things I know and also to keep people from getting in trouble if at all possible.

 

I can't control manufactures that advertize illegally.

I clearly stated, "and the State you live in".

This is only one part. Even in Cal. I'll bet you can change your wheels and tires.

Neither am I, just precise.

 

Give me a break. I never said you had control over any such thing and to say otherwise is ridiculous. Why are you taking this personally? (Or at least that is how it seems). I was merely trying to point out that just because it says "50 State legal" does not really mean that it is.......this was never about YOU, this was always about information. There IS a difference.

Again, I was just trying to clarify and make sure other people understood this.

Yes, you can change your wheels and tires. I was specifically referring to EXHAUST......as it said in my prior posts. See?
So there is no need to be a smart-A$$ about this then is there? I am not calling you out, nor am I saying you are incorrect, I am merely trying to make sure that people understand that there are differences from State to State and that not everything is as it seems & that they need to research what is and is not allowed/legal in their specific States.